Hi guys, I've been into pick up for just over a year now, I've made a lot of improvements to my game but I'm far from the peak of my potential. I'm still having major problems sustaining dating relationships with HBs.

I've never had a problem dating 6's and 7's, I use the push pull theory, lots of negs and always stay cocky funny. But with HB8's and 9's it's a different story; I can't seem to keep them as interested and I end up going less cocky funny and more plain nice, and we all know where that gets you!

A good example is this HB8 I went out with last Wednesday; we went out for a few drinks in Covent Garden, I was acting all alpha, I ran the Cube and the 5 questions game, I negged a good amount of times and got a kiss close at the end of the night. She was keen and text me straight after and a couple of days later asked to see me again....perfect! But as soon as I said 'sure' and asked when she was free she stopped texting back!

This sort of thing happens a lot with girls hotter than a 7 and I really don't understand how I can prevent it. If anyone has any advice, it would be greatly apriciated.

Georgio

There's your problem.

You've recognised it yourself.

For the first few weeks / months, you have to act with those 8/9/10s like you would with a 6/7. Showing you're too available and too eager to please shows you don't have as much going on in your life, and have emotionally invested more than them. You become less of a challenge, less mysterious, and less attractive.

When you get that text saying she wants to meet, you HAVE to hold back from replying for at least a few hours.

When you do make a date, you have to TELL her where and when, and how you want her to dress.

My 2p is also that pushing for the k-close at the end of the night will actually hurt your chances. It's better to build sexual tension, but wait to close until you're actually back at your place.

Finally, it may be that you're using all these (gay) routines during the initial pickup, but then you reveal your "real" personality as you develop into a relationship, and the girl starts noticing all these incongruencies and thinks "THIS isn't what I signed up for at all!"

Better to be more natural, bring out the best aspects of YOURSELF, be honest and direct, and then there won't be such a weird shift from your "game" persona to your "real" persona.

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Let her know when you want to meet and where, not ask her, in other words, your stating "anytime babe, when you want, I have nothing else to do"

Also, as Blondguy stated with the gay routines, avoid them, or don't use them as much, or use it differently, as a situational piece.

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Seems like you are doing fine tbh.

I would personally say that you should not stick to using the cube, 5 questions and negs in every interaction, as this would create several problems

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Thanks guys, that's great advice. I see what you're saying about not using too many routines and being more natural. I don't think the problem is any sort of transition from running game to what i'm naturally like as I'm quite a cocky guy anyway!