Now realy think about this.

On a scale of 1 to 10. 10 being any of those smiling faces you see above you, style mystery and the like. And 1 being a beginer. How would you rate yourself as a PUA?

Take into acount all you've learned, all you've used in the field, what you've gained and lost. And come up with an honest answer, so you can see it, let it get to you, and feel free to change it when you feel you have progressed.

Ill kick things off.

I'm a 3

Still having a few problems aproaching real stunners with any success. And need to have a pint or two to get me in the mood...

What about YOU?

Uh, 4ish

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As for me, I can feel myself change in the way I interact with others based on where I am in my life. New business project + new city and I am ON! There is no Guru/master gumbo pick up artist man dude who can rival the way I can open anybody or any group and just lock it down. When I am like this, I can hit International type clubs and just work everybody and anybody from all backgrounds and nationalities from one corner of the club to the other. Private Asian style tables . . . put me in front of any of them, give me 20 minutes, and I'll be swigging free drinks the entire night and poaching their ladies while I'm at it.

. . . But . . . if I'm in a rut, when other facets of my life aren't going well, my social life equally suffers. The best way I can describe it is that I lose "flexibility". Instead of going out to befriend, I just go out to make my ends meet and even to me, this is boring. Thus I rarely focus on my "game". I just try to make my life work. Everything else falls into place.

On a side note . . . guys, don't fall into the trap of "measuring" each other's goals. Everybody's goals are different. This is what makes you unique. Your strategy and execution of that strategy however can be measured. If your goal is to find your future wife and you succeed, you are just as successful as some guy who does threesomes every other night. Keep your goals sacred.

9 inches



(I hope you catch my satire so I don't have to explain it)

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20 inches?

Wanna be a -- baller, shot caller
Twenty inch blades -- on the Impala
A caller gettin laid tonight
Swisher rolled tight, gotta spray my ice

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I'm writing in Mack Daddy.

I scoff at your scale!

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Fair play lads. Though the information provided wasnt exactlly what i was going for, it has a least been somewhat... Entertaining.

Plethora. 9 inches = 22.86cm and in my table 10cm = 1 point, so rounded up, that makes you a 3

Headshot: Having people self-report competency on a 1 to 10 scale in a completely subjective field while comparing themselves to unrealistic ideals = A pretty immature concept and overall bad idea, so rounded up that makes you a fool. (jk, nothing but love )

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There is nothing wrong with one assessing his/her ability and progress in what ever they do. Again, "personal goals" are subjective and should be kept sacred. However, your ability to achieve your goals is something that is measurable. Our culture around here seems to shun numerical values for the "game". OK, run it the way you want to run it. Clearly, people have some sort of figure in their head on their strengths and the their weaknesses.

Some of you give yourselves a letter grade. Some give yourselves a number. Others verbalize it: . . . I am a ______ that is great with _______ but short on _________.

The very point of this forum is to share ideas and improve. In order to improve, you need to figure out a reference point of where you are. Just about everything in life is this way . . .

Alright, but is it necessary to allot ourselves in a ranking system in comparison to others? In my opinion this could potentially lead to self-dissatisfaction, and can be especially discouraging to people envious of our social circle's generated ideal.

I don't think one should judge their success in comparison to others because success is a nominalization and hence means very different things for different people. I would consider my self somewhat successful, but there is no way I can rank myself. Also, I have quite a healthy self image and clear goals and directions that drive me to attain my personal ideal lifestyle.

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NOT at all necessary . . . but, how often do you see complete newbies post up bs like, "I'm a PUA! I've been gaming this girl like this and like that and like this and like that . . ." - and when you get around to it, he's some kid who's never went out on a date?

What I believe is absolutely necessary(if you actually want to progress at all) is to be honest with YOUR self. And this is true with everything in life. Would you ever dare to go to the North Shore in Honolulu and tell yourself that you've been big wave surfing for 10 years if all you have is 2 Waikiki rental weekends under your belt? Go ahead and paddle out there.

Now here's the little problem. When the kids come on this forum or go out with their friends . . . and they tell others that they're ALL THAT, soon enough, they believe it for themselves. Well, why even bother learning anything? And when they ask for advice, it's a pain in the neck to decipher through the bullshit to even help them even a little bit.

On this very forum, I have written up some heartfelt, long winded advice just to have the OP go, "Yeah, but I can't call her up. . . "

And I've actually met some ppl, (through this site included) where they wanted to "sarge together". ("Oh, I can open sets. I can do this, I can do that." We go out and they hide out in a little corner all night long) Had they told me EXACTLY where they were in their game, I would have set things up so that we would both have a much better time.

And the opposite is true. Sometimes, guys have plenty of experience and simply over think things for one reason or another. They make it seem like they're clueless when in fact, all it takes is, "Dude, stop feeling sorry for yourself and pick up the phone . . . dial . . ."
I think the opposite is true. To know exactly where you are is the beginning of growth. It allows you to set goals. It allows you to measure improvement. It gives others a reference point to offer proper advice.

To lie to yourself and others can only lead to dissatisfaction as it's the spark that ignites a cycle of miscommunication and stagnation.

On a scale of 1 to 10, I'm a sex.

maybe I'm just arrogant... but I have never met/watched video/talked to anyone who impressed me enough to think that they may actually be better with women then I am. So until I do I consider myself a 10.

In a club about a month ago I would have said a 6, in any other venue a 2.
Now in a club 4, anywhere else 3.
I have had my balls busted by a girl (might be seeing her tis all up in the air) but this has made me fall out of practice and lack any desire to pick up women argggggghhhhhhh.

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im a 2;

I know game inside out, outside in but i havent practised much and when I have the furthest ive come is a kiss close and then a bobbie suck (I pretty muched sucked at escalating that time, but now i know what to do (I think)). Also as im here whats the 'score' system they use in the game? I mean hows it calculated?

Spark.