OK, I've got an issue I need help with. There's this new girl I work with. She's pretty awesome. The thing is, she has a boyfriend(she's never mentioned him to me though) We hit it off from the very beginning. We have some things in common. I can't tell if she feels the same about me. She's really nice to everyone, so I can't attribute that to her liking me. I haven't told her how I feel(and I'm not going to) I know that's a big no no. I needed her to follow me today(I'm training her) so I told her "Come with me" and I stuck my hand out to see if she would grab it. She did. It was a little test of mine. My question is: How do I tell if she feels the same about me or is she just being nice? This is a girl I'd like to date, not just fuck. She the kind you can take home to your mother! Also, I'm, 36 and she's 22, if that makes any difference. I'm not too good at pick up. That's why I need your help...

Have you considered using your time for one of the billion's of single women on the planet

This girl is not different or special before you state it. You are bad with women and she is the only interaction from a decent looking girl you are coming across, thus you've developed a crush and joined a pick-up forum for it.

That fact she touched your hand doesn't actually mean anything, since you did it in such an indirect way that she is oblivious to.

Listen, get in the trenches of pick up and earn your reps. Stop messing around with taken girls, what the hell is wrong with you? How can you not see this will probably not go anywhere?

Even people with advanced game would not even waste their time because it is more about finding the available girls and capitalising on that fact. Gaming a taken girl to cheat is an uphill swim and douchey thing to do.

I have hooked up with taken girls. But those girls were looking for a guy and hoping to cheat, its a big difference than me gaming a girl and convincing them to cheat.

I can guarantee she does not want to fuck you. Lose the oneitus and get to work.

Why don't you at least reply to your old threads?

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I even gave you similar advice there which you don't thank me or anybody for.

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This is just bad for so many reasons. For eg if you're not good with women maybe don't start with the younger trainee from work. Also if you're not good wtf.. You've been here 3 years. Lastly you at 36 are talking about already taking her home to mom? How about for a change guys use this place to improve their dating life instead of snatching the one girl away back to their lair?

let me guess

"we hit it off from the beginning"
you think so because she shook your hand and introduced herself?


"we have some things in common"
you work at the same place, you both hate your boss, you both eat at the restaurant downstairs sometimes, and sometimes you bring your lunch from home?


"How do I tell if she feels the same about me"
simple, you ask me. She is not interested.

unfortunately, us men, including you, have a habit of interpreting a friendly woman as "she is interested in me" until we learn the hard way.

she looks at you as a coworker and she is friendly because she just wants to be friendly with her coworkers.

if you asked her right now "do you like me?" she would say "I dont know you, but you seem....nice."

I'm sure your mother would appreciate a cheating whore.

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Nothing will knock your dick in the dirt faster than this approach.
Well if you don't want to fuck her, who gets to?

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Oh i didn't even catch that lmao. .

Hey OP let me fuck her. You can date her after
I'm done. In other words it's easier to be her lover than her boyfriend. Everyone wants to be her boyfriend

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Erm, guys, maybe it's a silly question but, isn't this forum for helping each other out and improving ? This man has some serious game problems, why not give him some constructive advice rather like the above ?

Anyway fosgate, I agree that you have to ditch your target and move on. Go sarging and practice your game heavily with all the material that's at your disposal here or all over the internet. You'll very soon forget about this girl and enjoy your life all the better.

Wasn't it harsh advice that helped you?

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I'm just saying those last comments were not just harsh, but mean. Just my 2 cents.

Shut up you dick

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That's the problem with society today. No one wants to say the truth. Everyone wants to tip toe around it, create a safe environment and then introduce the truth rather than just say it outright. If you think you won't run into people who say mean shit in the real world then think again. Sometimes you will have to deal with it.

What was mean about guys saying harsh thing a girl that

1. The OP hasn't even gone out with or fucked

2. A girl that is just a person he works with

3. A girl that isn't close to the OP in any way shape or form other than she is his disney princess that he wants to swoon and take home to mama ?

If I am attacking Disney. Then I will gladly be that attack helicopter. Maybe shoot some fireworks while im at it.

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One of the major driving points on this forum is to ASSUME ATTRACTION.

Just as it took some level of ASSUMING Compliance for you to stick out her hand for her to grab it, seducing a woman requires one to assume the woman is already interesting in the seducer and behave as if you know this to be true. If you thought she found you to be hideous you would behave in an insecure manner around her causes her to see you as less attractive than you are. When you behave like you're attractive and like she should find you attractive it helps to influence how attractive you come across.

As far as " She's nice to everyone".. So what? Allowing that to get in your head will ruin your frame and make you timid about small escalations. I used to here that about girls all the time, and i would always get with those girls. And thats guys that didn't get with the girl only didn't because they assumed she was just "being nice". When maybe she wasn't, maybe she wasn't, but i was going to push the interaction until I found out.

So, just continue to use your balls just as you already did with the whole "grab my hand test". Its nothing to suggest you guys grabbing lunch after work, or her coming with you to help you pick out a shirt for an event you're going to. All she can do is say "yes or no". She says "yes" and you're one step closer, she says "no", you move on, you lose nothing, and you can now focus on new prospect and stop thinking about her so much.. Life always goes on. Ask the girl out. This can only benefit you.

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