Hello,
Recently I have realized most PUA go out at least 4 times a week, doesn't matter where but just outside, or they do around 20 approaches. What I noticed about myself is I dont go out unless I go with one of my friends. For those of you who go out alone and game by yourself:
How did you start off?
Were you rejected often?
What type of places did you go to?
Any recommendation or tips you can give me? (you know something you wish you knew when you started)

Any other suggestion would be helpful
Thanks for reading

I've never subscribed to the whole counting approaches and how often do I get rejected when it comes to myself...it takes the fun out of it to me. Approaching women is a passive part of my day. I don't go out looking for women but when I see one I like, I'll stop and talk to them. I'm sure to this day that more women reject me than give me their numbers. Many women that I call or text don't become dates. Many of my first dates don't get second ones. After saying all that, most of the guys around me wonder how I get so many women. You just have to go out, make yourself attractive, and then forget about your ego.

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Ah, I have lone wolfed for years. Actually, if you want to kill some time look up the documentary "Black Wolf" on nat geo. It was funny because I related so much to it.



Anyway,

How did you start off?

I started off at age 18. I sucked. Big time. But somehow people thought I was cute. I was inexperienced and a virgin. I found The Game by Neil Strauss at age 19. This is where I was intrigued by the pick up community. It was a den of players who help out others and I wanted to be part of it. I was a newbie like you. I went through alot of shit to get to where I am today. You definitely need to have some thick skin if you are going to lone wolf it.


Were you rejected often?

This is where the thick skin comes into place. Trust me, the amount of rejections were a lot. I have like 5 Julia's in my phone book. I have like 3 Samanthas. I don't remember them because they either never texted back or they just fell off. I have been turned down plenty of times I have heard every line in the book that a girl uses to indicate she isn't digging you.

" We are lesbians" "I have to go to the bathroom" "I have a boyfriend" "I need to find my friends" and so on.


Those are the usual ones you will run into. I probably memorized the line word for word. I even beat them to the punch lol.

What type of places did you go to?

I took advantage of college. I was in a pool of girls on a small campus. It was a great opportunity for me to grow. It was like an incubator for me and pickup. I got good, and eventually I gained a small rep on campus. I went to house parties and small bedroom parties. I did game outdoors though. I gamed girls from my class....


Once I turned 21 I started hitting the nightclubs and the bars. I still daygame to this day. It is usually me just going on about my day and just chatting up cuties on the way. For example, I was chatting up the gym staff at my gym. No biggie, no pickup but I practice my social skills when I can. You don't have to necessarily put pressure on yourself to game. Just enjoy your life and enjoy your interactions with people. You never know who you will meet or who you will find beneficial at the end of the day.

Any recommendation or tips you can give me? (you know something you wish you knew when you started)


I wish I knew about this forum when I was in high school. I wish I pushed myself to lone wolf it more. I definitely understand the friend thing. I did it is an excuse for awhile. But why would you let your friends be an excuse for you to not progress towards your goal. Enjoy your life. What you're thinking right now is in line with your beliefs. YOU BELIEVE that you're supposed to go out with friends. You are socialized to think you are a creep if you are out alone by yourself. You think you will have some stigma assigned to you. But fuck society. I said that and I made friends out when I went by myself. I created friends and I always told my friends about it. Now they are the ones hitting me up and egging me on to go out.


It is what it is.

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I've found the main difference between lone wolfing and going out with friends is you need to find your sets a hell of a lot quicker. When you go into a venue with friends you can relax a bit more and check out the scene. If you enter alone, you will very quickly become self aware. If you just end up standing on your own for even 2 minutes you'll send out the vibe that your their alone. People may not necessarily care, but you will feel like they do, and your confidence will start to slip rapidly. So entering alone, you need to be on it and approach the first set you can - even if its just a group of guys. You could probably even tell these guys you came alone. I've done it in the past, I walked up to 3 dudes and said 'hey guys, I was supposed to meet my friend here, but he pussyed out on me, so i thought I'd stay and meet some new people'. After that we got on well and they were my base for the rest of the night whilst I did my usual sarge.

Girls, in my experience, will almost always ask where your friends are. Just say 'oh theyre around somewhere' and then move on. There wont usually be any follow up questions.

Also, if the club is generally a friendly place with a good vibe, you can pretend you know anyone. So if you're talking with a girl and need a bit of social proof, just catch someone walking past and say hey how are you, and clink drinks with them.

As for rejection, there's not a lot of difference, it just depends on you. Ive never been rejected for being there on my own (i dont think so anyway). But like I said at the start, once rejected you have to move on quick, otherwise people might see you just standing there looking butthurt and desperate.

Once you lonewolf a couple of times, you'll realize it's not so scary.

Why does this matter?
Actually less than you would when you're approaching with friends. You start off a bit slower because you don't have a safety blanket, but once you're take off, you take off. Theres no one to impress other than yourself, theres no one to comfort you after rejections. You just have to man up. Thats what gives you the real edge.. Approaching with friends is more so recreational.
Everywhere that there are women. Subways, Malls, side walks, bars, cashiers etc. etc.
Do your best to rapid approach. Do rush any interaction, spend time creating the connection, but once the interaction has reached its peak, get into to a new one. A problem a lot of guys make is they'll be talking themselves up and only approach once every 30-45 mins.. You'll never "heat up" this way and have streaks in which you're getting 3-4 numbers back to back to back or a same day lay. The goal is to get hot. Imagine trying to heat a hot pocket in the microwave by putting in it for 10 seconds every minute for 6 minutes vs 1 straight minute. It'll only get hot one of those ways. Its not about the number of approaches, its about being consistent in approaching and getting hot.

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