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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 3:17 pm 
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I feel scared of going out alone and sometimes even with wings. One of the biggest reason is that im bad in bed and i cum easily.

And internally it makes me feel, even if i go out and get a girl, we both be disappointed. I mean i don't enjoy sex because i have no control over my orgasm and she doesn't either because i cum easily.


I do watch porn and masturbate like 1-2 times a week. I have done nofap for 10 days, 20 days but have managed to relapse.

I have a lot things going for me. I work out, i have an excellent career but i can't seem to get better in bed.

But sometimes even when i approach women, they leave and i realize i want them to leave because i have nothing to say or to offer. I feel really insecure and then go in the cycle and my night goes down hill.

Also should i get in relationship and work on it by having constant sex? Or should i go out and random experiences?
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Man, you have conquer first going out alone before you think about sex.


And you are contradicting yourself....you say you have alot of things going for you but yet you can't manage to translate it to the interactions you have with women ? I think you need to get the basics down. Start over. You got some work to do. Your question has like 5 things going on that I personally don't think I can solve in one response.

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@Mr. Assertive

When you say start over and get basics down. Can you elaborate what the next few steps should be?

You mention conquer going out alone first? Im guessing that's the first step.

Another thing is im decent during day game and do get about half a dozen of numbers in a week. It's going out at night that is the problem but i really do want to work on it. I can't seem to open more than two girls set most of the time.


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Here's what I'm reading. "I'm comfortable enough to talk to girls during the day and get numbers, but going to bars or clubs are not in my comfort zone." I'm guessing that the problem is that you've realized that you are a good talker and it doesn't translate over to bars/clubs, so talking is no longer a strength.

Here's a post from another thread
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As other posters have already pointed out, you should be able to adapt your approach depending on the situation. For simplicity though, I go under the radar by using nonverbal escalation techniques and so much less of those direct verbal techniques unless:

1. The girl opened me first.

2. The girl touched me first.

3. The girl gave me a set of approach invites.

For instance:

1. I don't do those gay tap on the shoulders or arm kino on girls. That's indirect nonverbal gaming. A direct nonverbal kino which is still under the radar is shaking hands with a girl, not letting her hand go for a couple of minutes, pulling her body closer through her hand, and so on. Then I calibrate. Two steps forward for every one step back. I do this calibration rhythm until I am using the girl's hand to rub on my cock. I really think the proper escalation rhythm is crucial in your seduction. Likewise, you also have to be very careful on the venue so the girl won't look like a slut in front of her friends.

2. When a girl touches my abs and gives me an eyefuck for more than 2 minutes; I go direct verbal. I sometimes say things like, "I want to fuck you right now" and get away with it towards a same day lay (rare). The most effective verbal approach though is to simply say, "Let's go" and then isolate the girl to the f-close place (your apartment, a nearby inn or motel, a basement and so on.)

As a rule of thumb: Convey your clear intention through your nonverbals unless the girl is showing very obvious signs that she's already horny enough and ready to get fucked.
Here's another solid piece of advice from a different poster
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I find this is common to the guys who only do day game. They rely on verbal communication and they simply haven't had enough reps at escalation to be competent at it since escalating in the daytime from a cold approach is a much different dynamic than a club where the guys who are doing well with women, are using their NON VERBAL skills to meet women

I would recommend to have a few nights in clubs, make a promise to your self to not open verbally, only non verbal, then physically escalate

You can do this on or off the dancefloor, same process applies.

Last time I was in a loud place, I clinked my glass with a girl passing by, she reciprocated and then I pointed to the dance floor, lead her there and escalated physcially and it went well. It can be as simple as that. Non of this 'guessing where is from and what she does for a living bollocks that every daygamer does.

Try to be more animalistic, pretend you're a lion finding a mate, look at these sexy girls like you want to fuck them and LEAD like a trooper. This will change your life.

Get it done, you can tackle this sticking point this weekend if you wanted to by literally going from one girl to the next
I can vouch for both of these posters experience because daygame is my real strength when it comes to pickup because I have the personality for it. It took me a while to recognize that the difference between day game and night game is night and day (see what I done there?) and you have to develop two different approaches in order to be good at both. I had to step out of my comfort zone and that's what you need to do.

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Now that this is pointed i guess. I remember my sets going well with escalation until i fuck them verbally being too direct. I will work on this.


Also any tips on getting better in bed? Does watching porn harms you that much?


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Here's what I'm reading. "I'm comfortable enough to talk to girls during the day and get numbers, but going to bars or clubs are not in my comfort zone." I'm guessing that the problem is that you've realized that you are a good talker and it doesn't translate over to bars/clubs, so talking is no longer a strength.

Here's a post from another thread
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As other posters have already pointed out, you should be able to adapt your approach depending on the situation. For simplicity though, I go under the radar by using nonverbal escalation techniques and so much less of those direct verbal techniques unless:

1. The girl opened me first.

2. The girl touched me first.

3. The girl gave me a set of approach invites.

For instance:

1. I don't do those gay tap on the shoulders or arm kino on girls. That's indirect nonverbal gaming. A direct nonverbal kino which is still under the radar is shaking hands with a girl, not letting her hand go for a couple of minutes, pulling her body closer through her hand, and so on. Then I calibrate. Two steps forward for every one step back. I do this calibration rhythm until I am using the girl's hand to rub on my cock. I really think the proper escalation rhythm is crucial in your seduction. Likewise, you also have to be very careful on the venue so the girl won't look like a slut in front of her friends.

2. When a girl touches my abs and gives me an eyefuck for more than 2 minutes; I go direct verbal. I sometimes say things like, "I want to fuck you right now" and get away with it towards a same day lay (rare). The most effective verbal approach though is to simply say, "Let's go" and then isolate the girl to the f-close place (your apartment, a nearby inn or motel, a basement and so on.)

As a rule of thumb: Convey your clear intention through your nonverbals unless the girl is showing very obvious signs that she's already horny enough and ready to get fucked.
Here's another solid piece of advice from a different poster
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I find this is common to the guys who only do day game. They rely on verbal communication and they simply haven't had enough reps at escalation to be competent at it since escalating in the daytime from a cold approach is a much different dynamic than a club where the guys who are doing well with women, are using their NON VERBAL skills to meet women

I would recommend to have a few nights in clubs, make a promise to your self to not open verbally, only non verbal, then physically escalate

You can do this on or off the dancefloor, same process applies.

Last time I was in a loud place, I clinked my glass with a girl passing by, she reciprocated and then I pointed to the dance floor, lead her there and escalated physcially and it went well. It can be as simple as that. Non of this 'guessing where is from and what she does for a living bollocks that every daygamer does.

Try to be more animalistic, pretend you're a lion finding a mate, look at these sexy girls like you want to fuck them and LEAD like a trooper. This will change your life.

Get it done, you can tackle this sticking point this weekend if you wanted to by literally going from one girl to the next
I can vouch for both of these posters experience because daygame is my real strength when it comes to pickup because I have the personality for it. It took me a while to recognize that the difference between day game and night game is night and day (see what I done there?) and you have to develop two different approaches in order to be good at both. I had to step out of my comfort zone and that's what you need to do.
I'll 2nd that. Night game is an entirely different beast. I am far more comfortable approaching in the day, as the context is much different, and I live in a city with health conscious people and I find the fit chicks more in the day rather than in the club having drinks. That said, I do prefer lounges but still the frame is there that typically most people are looking to hookup, and many women have more of a defensive shell up. I'm not a club person at all, I couldn't stand them in my younger days so I stopped going at around 25. I also don't want a party girl, that said not every girl in a club is a party girl but again, its about demographics and knowing what kind of girl you're trying to net. For me its more figure-type physique girls, petite with the tight booty and bouncy vivaciousness that I like so I'm far more likely to encounter her downtown walking around, in a café or health place, beach, sea wall, basically anywhere were larger groups of people gather outdoors. I am actualy running short of ideas as to where I'll find these girls so if anyone has ideas by all means chime in.

The point of all of this is to know the type of girl you're looking for and put yourself in places where you're more likely to encounter her.


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I feel scared of going out alone and sometimes even with wings. One of the biggest reason is that im bad in bed and i cum easily.
Go to a sex therapist. The guy who introduced me to PU used to have these problems. Not something that you can't solve.

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I feel scared of going out alone and sometimes even with wings. One of the biggest reason is that im bad in bed and i cum easily.

And internally it makes me feel, even if i go out and get a girl, we both be disappointed. I mean i don't enjoy sex because i have no control over my orgasm and she doesn't either because i cum easily.


I do watch porn and masturbate like 1-2 times a week. I have done nofap for 10 days, 20 days but have managed to relapse.

I have a lot things going for me. I work out, i have an excellent career but i can't seem to get better in bed.

But sometimes even when i approach women, they leave and i realize i want them to leave because i have nothing to say or to offer. I feel really insecure and then go in the cycle and my night goes down hill.

Also should i get in relationship and work on it by having constant sex? Or should i go out and random experiences?
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Any advice will be helpful.
(female answer). hello! it makes me sad to hear that someone who has a lot going for him like you would feel nervous about going out there. and maybe I am not like other women, but i actually assumed guys quite often- yet you are abstaining from it... i think 1-2 times a week is very normal.

And my recommendation (to the extent you want one from a woman) is to go for the relationship - because if you get to know a woman personally and make a connection, she is more likely to want to keep at it with you sexually and will be more forgiving if she really cares about you.


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So get good at fucking.... Build your confidence in that respect. Nothing provides you with more of an "ease" while approaching than knowing you can fuck a girl so good, you'll ruin her sex life.

Find a girl who's cute and fuckable AND LIKES YOU.

(You're probably going to have to lower your standards just a touch like most guys do. I get laid 100xs more by having SLIGHTLY lower standards than most guys. I just let myself get turned on by whatever my brain decides to get turned on by. Sometimes I think the girls horse teeth are sexy wrapped around my dick???)

Once you find this girl, have sex with her 100 times. See where your level of sexual confidence is at then. See how you feel about going out and hitting on girls then.

If nothing has changed, fuck her another 100 times. Your mission here should be to get better at sex. Not better at going out. You'll get better at going out when you get better at laying the pipe.


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A bit of catch 99 here, i guess.

To build sexual confidence i need to find a woman, to find one i need confidence.


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A bit of catch 99 here, i guess.

To build sexual confidence i need to find a woman, to find one i need confidence.
To build confidence one must first invest in one's self, and continue doing so no matter what.


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A bit of catch 99 here, i guess.

To build sexual confidence i need to find a woman, to find one i need confidence.
To build confidence one must first invest in one's self, and continue doing so no matter what.
This. You're already working out (hopefully, you have some kind of build that shows that you are working out). In addition, you have a career (again, hopefully, it's something that you look forward for at least most of the days).


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How do you conquer the fear of going out?

By going out.

The only real way to conquer a fear of something is to do that thing. A lot.

Any other answer that helps you "ease into it" or whatever is just mental masturbation. Develop a habit of doing the things you fear. SBAP.


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“I will act now. I will act now. I will act now. Henceforth, I will repeat these words each hour, each day, everyday, until the words become as much a habit as my breathing, and the action which follows becomes as instinctive as the blinking of my eyelids. With these words I can condition my mind to perform every action necessary for my success. I will act now. I will repeat these words again and again and again. I will walk where failures fear to walk. I will work when failures seek rest. I will act now for now is all I have. Tomorrow is the day reserved for the labor of the lazy. I am not lazy. Tomorrow is the day when the failure will succeed. I am not a failure. I will act now. Success will not wait. If I delay, success will become wed to another and lost to me forever. This is the time. This is the place. I am the person.”


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