I'm splitting this into two questions which are practically the same.

A) How do you get a girl to be your fuck buddy, where you both know that you just want to fuck and can call each other round without making it a big deal.

B)I've known someone for a while,but I feel if I mention coming round for sex (obviously I don't just say "lets have sex". But you know what I mean.) or even imply sex, she goes weird and will somehow get out of the "date". If I just put it her as a date she's more likely to come round and ends up stopping anyway :S

So my current dilemma is how to get her round. I'm finishing boxing at around 7pm and I cba for a date i just want her to come round and chill, but if I ask her that she'll go all weird but I don't know what b.s date idea I should come up with for a "date".

It's not just about the sex, some girls I want to go on dates with and get to know them properly etc, but some you just want it to be a sex thing lol.

You could of made that a little easier to understand bro.

But i'm never the " Come over so we can fuck guy" - unless me and the girl have that kind of relationship.

The F buddy thing happens with me when i'm honest. I think everyone starts out as fuck buddies anyway in the 21 century. And then the girl introduces the " What are we " conversation and you tell her the truth. Her response will either leave you with a fuck buddy - which is really a girl waiting around, and giving you time to like her enough to be with her. Or she won't be interested.

What do you mean by make up something? Like you have to say " Hey, come over so we can watch movies? " or do you have to physically take her on a date?

No one wants to feel like a peace of meat. I'll never forget the time a girl threw me out directly after sex.. I'm usually the guy to leave, but she beat me to it lol.. Its weird..

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Aha that's so funny. I was just reading another post you'd written and thought this guy knows his shit. I ended up looking at your profile, next thing I know you comment on my post, how ironic.

Yea basically. I'm in two minds as to give her a weak answer like "watch films" where she'll definitely know it's just sex. Or whether I do actually need to do this properly and go out for drinks, which I kind of don't mind, just don't want anything too heavy/serious date wise. We've done meals and stuff in the past, but I kind of would love to just chill and actually enjoy each others company. You know just chilling in your sweats and get a take away or something.

That sweat pants stuff can be pulled off successful for sometimes. After all its all us as guys want.. To just chill. We like leisure time. Women like to be SEEN.. They don't mind chilling with us, but they do like to be seen. I've lost plenty of fuck buddies because i simply just did not want to be seen with them in public. I just didn't want to create the impression that i wanted this to be anything more than sex.

Those kinds of relationships usually only last be 1-2 months.. Sometimes you strike gold and have a girl that will stick around. See you once every other week. I've had a few 2 year long one night stands..

If the sex is good, the women will usually be around. Until either you get a girlfriend or they get a boyfriend. Whats the sex like?

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Go for it...as long as whatever you do ends in sex. Once it doesn't...that is no longer a f buddy situation.

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That is basically it, many relationships start the opposite way then they used to. First sex, then start hanging out more/ getting closer, and eventually the disclosure of feeling part.