Ive tried 3 cold approaches until now.

I can open the girl, talk for a while about some random things and then start with kino. The girls actually LET ME touch them pretty easily, they dont feel nervous or uncomfortable. Thing is, my conversation topics are too scattered.

Yesterday I tried to approach a girl who was with 2 female friends. After 5 min of talking with her I started with the kino and after another 5 min I was face to face with her and kissed her. Her answer was "I...dont know you..." but I replied with "I dont know you either, my name is (name)... see? were not strangers anymore" She giggled and smiled.

But after a couple of kisses (I actually kissed her and she let me but during the kiss she was like almost static like her mind was in a total mess and she seemed to be in a trance. I asked for her number after but I didnt get it, I got the same reply "I dont know you..."

Today I opened this girl who was working out. I wasnt really interested because she was just average but I decided to practice my game. So I talked to her friend, then went into her, did some eye contact while touching her (this girl let me touch her too) in the stomach, hands, back, almost close to her breasts.. At the end I asked for her number but she said "Maybe other day".

The thing in common between the 2 scenarios was that they were both under time pressure. They had to go because THEIR GROUPS had to go as well. But I was wondering.... I dont think girls who thinks youre a creepy guy or doesnt feel any kind of attraction let you touch them like that, right?

So maybe my flaw is building rapport (?) in that case I might be doing good at building attraction?

Any tips to improve? this is new to me, I didnt think I actually could open to random girls and touch her and stuff... I need some guide

THANKS!

I'm not sure of the nature of your question. Building of attraction can happen in a split second if you are of that level of confidence . A woman is as attracted to you as the level of that which you believe you're attractive. Women are simply reflecting our states back to us.

So if you're confident enough you can introduce yourself to her girl, grab her by the hand and gently lead her to your home without having to say much of a word.

Women cleave to authority by nature. And this is one of the truths many feminist of today do not acknowledge. Anyone that has been out there approaching thousands of women can tell you that women will follow any lead you set forth so long as its done with the proper amounts of confidence.

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Thanks,

What I wanted to ask (sorry If i got too confusing in my post) is that I can do what you just said; open a girl, get physical with her (kino)... I did this to a girl yesterday at the park and I kissed her about 10 min after just meeting her. But then she was like in a "trance" like still proccessing what just happened and her recurring phrase is "i dont know you" even tho I kissed her 2 times (because she let me do it but she was kinda static like she was actually having a flood of different thoughts in her mind at that moment). Then she didnt want to give me her number for a D2, she just said "lets exchange numbers this thursday" (If by any probability I see her again at this park)

Maybe I should made "a connection" with her but its like I got those kisses... I dont think she thought I was someone creepy right? Why she would negate her number? Maybe I didnt get too much "rapport" ?

Haven't read replies...sorry if this is mentioned already.

Attraction is made in an instant.

I usually run something like - Spark attraction (through eye contact and body language) - approach and open her establishing communication and contact on my approach (light kino like a gentle brush on the arm, a high five or a hand shake) - (the next step actually depends on what psychology patterns I got from the girl, I run a 9 path framework/routine... we'll go with a girl who is open to sexuality, and isn't showing me a ton of direct interest since this seems to be the style you like) I have fun and jabber about some mundane situational topic tailoring my words to get her to laugh. This is meant to establish some basic social comfort, this is not rapport building by any means. Nothing deep is discussed and no real opinions are shared, just bs fluff conversation that doesn't show any of my real intent. this is within my attraction phase. I found that initial spark has to be cultivated or it will fade if you start trying to establish rapport with these types of women right after the spark.I still use light superficial kino - Then I have her qualify herself to me. Usually she will voluntarily qualify herself if the attraction was done correctly, some hold back so I have a few techniques to force a qualification out of her. Upon her qualification I use more powerful kino usually a hug or something more than superficial, but not sexual, friendly kino- After she has qualified herself to me then I will attempt to establish rapport. Rapport I have found is not built through jokes and superficial communication, or touching or anything like that. It's through the communication of a friend. So we start sharing likes and dislikes and I start talking about things and events I do in my life and get her to agree to join me at a few of them. About 5 things. Movies, bars, nice walks, etc etc at which point I'll close her number friendly kino through out. I don't take her number and run (not a fan of that since everyone does it) - Then seduction takes place. This is where I turn into the player and I use tactics like sexual tension, and I'll try to take them on an instant date first. This is where I will use sexual Kino escalation such as hand holding for 2 minutes strong, and going for kisses, and attempting to isolate her to a sex location.


So to me it looks like your style is all about attraction. There are different phases to the interaction and you have to play different roles in each phase... The attraction phase is more like being a kid. You have to transition out of the attraction phase with a qualification, which solidifies the attraction and moves you smoothly into the rapport building steps where you act more like a friend. Finally, you go into the seduction phase were you are the manly lover.

By relying solely on attraction and neglecting the other stuff, the game you run is really rough and has many holes that leave openings for the woman to have doubts in her mind. If you smoothly go from attraction - qualification - rapport - seduction. You should never get that I don't know you complaint.

I never do.

Like I said this framework is meant for a specific type of girl. I find out the psychology of the women and I operate different frameworks for each one. I have 9. The 9 have 3 different patterns to adapt to 3 different situations: Dynamic (fast paced environment like walking and the girl is moving in the opposite direction) Static (an environment where there is an extended period of time between me and the girl, like standing in a line, riding the bus, or in a coffee shop) Dynamic-in-static (parties bars or clubs). It's really a framework with 27 branches.

Don't mind me I was obsessed with PU for a while and had nothing but time to learn and practice stuff. Mastering one situation, and one type of girl will give you plenty.

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Thanks dude, awesome reply. Yeah I feel that with the last 3 girls Ive gamed I had this flaw, they sent me the IoI like holding the eye contact, letting me touch them and even be receptive. But I lacked the part about "getting connected" as a "friend" like you said. It was more like "2 strangers who just flirt" and thats it.

By the way, "calification" means her working to get your acceptance?

Yeah. Her trying to make herself look cool or impress you in some way. She might mention how she goes to some school, or has some accomplishment. It will be out of line with the banter fluff you present at the beginning.

If you talk for about 2-3 minutes and she hasn't done this yet she either doesn't think you are higher value than her and therefor isn't really attracted to you, or she is shy.

At which point I'll make her qualify herself using one of a several techniques I've learned. If she doesn't go along with the forced qualification then she isn't attracted enough, regardless of how she acts. So you have to build more attraction then try again.

Building attraction can be done many different ways and you seem to have that down pact.

What I think you're doing actually is sparking attraction then immediately after the spark you dive right into seduction. Like you don't cultivate the attraction through negative body language. don't qualify, don't rapport build, and you go right for seduction?

Is that about right? It's fine that's what I see being taught by most gurus, and it will actually work if you try it on enough women, anything will. Law of averages.

I'm mostly about efficiency with everything I do though.

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Thats what stuff like flash game is all about. Like if you have a nice physique and are running game, the attraction is gonna be there with women, esp if your tall too. In fact, they may open you, or grab your hand or some shit and say your hot. But u havent really built any rapport with em. Kinda nice I guess esp, if its night. Flash game at night is $. My buddy is 6'4 225 ripped with some solid game but never has to really use it due to his size which draws attention. Kid express runs the bar all the time with like 10 minutes to close and can often pull with a random off no rapport. So idk if thats building attraction, but its kinda already there, ultimately you can pull without much rapport off of your aesthetics.