HB is generally 15 min late to date on every occasion where she comes to YOU.

So you leave after those 15 minutes and make her wait at your place/restaurant/location for an equal amount of time, to flip the person who is waiting

She will associate being 15 minutes late to waiting for you for an equal or greater amount of time because you went out and did something else before you came back and hung out with her. She calls you a jerk for not waiting, tell her to be punctual.

Obviously, if it is a ridiculous amount of time late and the time to meet was agreed on, cancel the date all together.

IMHO, not a good strategy... she will get offended and not learn from your lesson... is it worth starting a fight and having a bad mood on the date (if there is still a date) for these 15 minutes? in other words, are 15 minutes worth risking sex altogether?

As Redlight said, bad strategy. You're wasting an extra 15 mins, so what's the point. If she says she'll be at X at 8, why not just use common sense and get there for 8:15. For example, I'm late to meet friends. Not cause I don't care but I genuinely get caught up with other stuff and misjudge time. So when I tell someone I'll be there at 8, it's understood between us that it's gonna be 8:30. If I really do get there at 8, and they aren't ready, it's cool with me because I know I'm always late. It's like a joke to my friends that the time I say is actually +15. No biggie, no games, no wasting time trying to teach me something.

the point is to get her to associate being 15 minutes late (her reasoning was she left 10 min early then realized she needed gas, she wasn't getting caught up with something legitimate) with waiting HERSELF.

Actions--------->consequences

so next time she decides to leave too late from her house, in the back of her head she knows she'll be waiting for me if she chooses to do so

Also, we still bang when this happens, she calls me an ass, laughs, and she talked to her friend about it and the friend said "I would have done what he does"

Lheart, I suspect this is why your gf is "shit testing" you as you said in the other thread. This payback dynamic is cute, but not good. If her reasons are legitimate, and she is not playing around, what will it accomplish? If you believe her, then let's say next time she leaves early and realizes she needs gas again. Is she going to not get gas because she knows she will be waiting? If she is lying, then that is another issue.

Has she learned from your strategy, or has she continued to be late? If it has stopped, then fine. If not it's wrong and isn't accomplishing anything. She is not a dog and this is an obvious punishment dynamic. She learns that her actions (being late) leads to consequences (her waiting). But it probably doesn't end there. Now your actions (making her wait) will lead to consequences. I could be wrong. But if you're gf is playing games as you say, maybe look at what games you are playing with her too.

Her reasons were not legit man. She leaves her house at like 5:05 when we agreed to meet at 5:15(she lives about 20 min away). Also, when she said I was impatient and couldn't wait, she also smiled and said she was only 5 minutes late, when she got to my house at 5:31. She then tried to say she isn't a punctual person for work, ect, but it is all bullshit. All she is doing is sitting at her house then coming to mine

And we do end up having sex that same day, planned a vacation, and watched some tv in peace. and maybe she put up some resistance the first time we did this, but certainly not now. I fail to see how this would encourage her to test me in other ways to push my boundaries. If anything, this shows her I have self respect

This is simple. I don't know your gf you do. Why is she late? Is she late because she is a poor planner/scatterbrain /late for everything type or is she late for another reason. Alot of the things your gf does confuses me so I assumed the first. Are you dating a poor planner, or a psycho playing games? If she is the first, I'd just brush it off and set the time earlier. So if I wanna meet at 8, say 7:45. If she is playing games, I'd walk because I'd doubt her mental health and it's really weird to be late for no reason. But I know that punishing her either way won't work, because if she's scatterbrain, it doesn't help, and if she is playing games she's obviously not stopping so what's the point.

She is more the poor planner type, she isn't crazy, just immature and poor planner.

So why punish her for a character flaw while losing 15 mins extra when you see her? As I said, if it were me and she told be 5:15, I'd be ready at 5:30. Like any boundary, you gotta decide how important punctuality is to you. All that matters is she's there at a certain time right? So just tell her 15 mins earlier. You don't have to use this is as a way to show off your self respect IMO. You're dating a 21 yr old who is immature. Instead of being immature too, better to either get ready later or work with her on her maturity (but this is tougher as u can't really make someone more mature).

that's just who she is. Some ppl are like that... 15 min late doesn't seem like anything to go crazy over. There's a lot of women who just plain suck at being on time. If she flakes out on you completely or is constantly an hour late then you got a problem... but i think we're making a mountain out of a molehill here.

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