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| fishnwomen | PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:14 pm | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Zealot |  | Joined: Mon May 20, 2013 3:38 pm Posts: 323 | | Hi guys,
I just had my first encounter with a fellow pua during a set. I approached a group that included one guy and a couple girls. I engaged the whole group, and I used one of Style's canned openers... the guy chirped up, and made a comment about the game, and sort of called me out on it.
I figure a similar situation will come up again, even if I come up with my openers. How do you guys deal with a situation where someone calls you out on being a pick up artist. I just denied it and said something like "what the fuck are you talking about? I don't read that shit."
Anyway, I blew the set, but I learned a valuable experience.
Perhaps, a broader question is, how do you guys deal with uncooperative males in a set, who maybe don't want you in the conversation very bad?
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| Psydaddy | PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:50 pm | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Addict | Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:23 pm Posts: 210 | | That's the worse cockblock that you can get.
You should say: (point to him and talk to others) Does he read that? (now back to him) you don't need that, I'll teach you something natural in a moment.
This way you would lower his value and higher yours.
But i can say that this is not a cool situation to lead with. Basely he said: He's a loser! and the others noticed that. Also girls don't like to know that you are psychological trained to get them into your bed, face it, when someone bring the idea that you are a loser, it's hard to get that idea from the others.
But that happened because you used a known routine, you should create yours and never give it to others! _________________ Gotta put da cream!
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| GKS | PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:01 pm | |
Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:16 pm Posts: 1166 | | The more you get defensive, the less composed you will look.
I had this girl I was gaming called me out on it before. I just nodded and used that as my topic instead, I asked her what she thinks about this or that techniques, etc... And she gave me some really good insight. Same thing here, if you keep denying it, he will keep provoking you so you would look bad in front of the set. You can choose to ignore him or agree with it and steal his frame by asking the group's opinion on the Game. As long as you keep your frame, it doesn't matter if you're using the game or not.
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| Jay (Majik) | PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:34 pm | |
| Offline | | The Coach |  | Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:44 am Posts: 4170 Location: Chicago, IL | | This is why you shouldn't used canned shit lol
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| MarcusAurelius | PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:43 am | |
| Offline | | New to MPUA Forum |  | Joined: Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:32 am Posts: 18 | | By approaching others with canned trickery, you have reduced yourself to a mere jester, a buffoon.
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| Melodical | PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:28 pm | |
| Offline | | PUA Forum Leader |  | Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:46 pm Posts: 880 Location: Newcastle | | Think up your own openers; it's not difficult.
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| FeralJon | PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:36 pm | |
| Offline | | New to MPUA Forum | Joined: Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:40 am Posts: 21 | | there is a few things you could of done
Most importantly is be not outcome dependent, dont try to close someone in every set, so if you do get blown out then you havent lost anything, you are just the social guy and if you did bounce around the club opening other sets and just having a good time then they seem like the assholes for blowing you out
1) say omg you read that book to i was having a debate with my friends whether that shit actually works, my friend has read it and think he is gods gift to women blah blah blah.
or just say that you got dared to come say it because my friend swears by it and he is trying to prove that it works or something else along those lines
2) you could of just befriended the group and the other pua and made a wing out of him, if he wasnt being aggressive towards you then he was just shit testing you, never be ashamed or embarrassed that you are learning game
3) you could of just called him on it and said "oh so you have read it to(assumption)" then put the spotlight on him, "oh so do you find that the canned openers work, or do you prefer natural shit?" (forcing the idea that he has used it and if he is no good he will usually answer natural, by which point you can ask oh so how come you read it then ?, or some other way to amog him)
Russel Brand, even though im not a fan has publicly admitted to reading and learning game, does that change the way girls view him ?
hope this helps
jon
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