Hi guys, this is my first post on this site so go easy!

About a year ago I met this girl (a HB8 I think you call it). Back then I was utterly clueless and quickly established myself as the ultimate nice guy by supporting her with her relationship troubles, a serious family crisis, an illness and all sorts while complimenting her way too much (negging was an alien concept to me!) etc.

Anyways recently she broke up with her boyfriend and I've decided to try my luck - the problem is I'm well and truly in the friend zone and am not really sure what to do. I have concerns about immediately using a really direct approach as I'd certainly lose a really good friend if it went wrong so is there anything I can do to subtly push her in the right direction before going in for the kill?

Cheers lads

Tigger

Oh btw.....she's 24, a uni educated city worker, pretty classy, doesn't really do one night stands. Although I occasionally see her at the odd party etc. most of my contact with her is when I go round hers for beer and pizza every couple of weeks - in case that helps build a picture.

Tigger

too late. Well, if you think this is going to change any time soon you better slap yourself because I can't do it for you. I recommend reinventing yourself, not as another person, but as a person who doesn't do all that ^. Granted, you were a good person, you were a nice guy who was kind of manipulating her and thought doing all that would get you into her pants. At this point she only sees you as a friend and by you doing a 180 it doesn't look too good.

There are a lot of girls out there. Lots and lots. You can state your intent but there is a slim chance she will feel the same way about you. I recommend you go out and date a shit load of females and that may subtly push her into the romantic direction if you subtly hint that you are dating other females.. That's all I got. Good luck.

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honestly, your in pretty deep, and thats an understatement. but w/e, heres my advice.

Stop talking to her. Go get good at game, and life in general, cuz no offense, but it sounds like your not doing good so far. PUA helps all around in life btw.

Revisit her after you have fucked some other women and have established yourself as a sexual being. This will probs be at least 6 months.

If you still even give a fuck about her, that will be your time. other than that, you should accept the fact that she won't happen. you'll be over it in a week tops