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today I was at the post office. They have these automated machines that help you with printing postage for your package. you just place your package on there, touch the touch screen, click here, click there, and get your postage.

this girl was behind me and I struck up a conversation with her, something like "are you in line?"
anyway, she said "I have never used one of these. Is it easy to use?" I said "yes"...but I did not help, I just printed my postage and left.

normally, I would help. but i have read on this forum that you don't want to be "nice" because then you will lose value. but at the same time, I wanted to help. the machine is pretty self-explanatory, but it can get pretty confusing if you have never done it. I feel like such an asshole. I just printed my shit and left, without offering help. What kind of a faggot am I?

so now my question: is it possible to help without appearing "nice" and getting friendzoned?

By the way, I was hoping someone would explain what it means when they say you have to be an asshole....clearly the kind of asshole that I made myself doesn't work.

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you are retarded. But in a good way. See what I did there?

You could have have teased her about it and helped her. Taking this whole not being "nice" too far won't do you any good. Easily you could have interpreted that as her flirting with you -even if it wasn't.

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I agree with this quote. You don't need to go out of the way to NOT be nice. Just make sure that you're not supplicating to women in order to get into their pants. You should come across as a guy who is effortless.

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You want to be an asshole who really values his time. If you had time and could help the girl, you should have. It's not even about pickup- more of a common courtesy. Plus it would have given you more time and opportunity to game her, which is better than just saying no and leaving. If you're never going to see her again, why would you need that "value" that you're talking about?

It's sort of like offering someone a ride while their place being on your way vs. being in the whole different direction. If you say no to the first, you just appear as an asshole. If you say no to the latter, you can at least explain it to yourself that it's out of your way and you have better shit to do.

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I agree with this post. I see wayyyy too many guys overdo the whole don't be a nice guy thing. Being a nice guy and being a gentleman is 2 completely different things.

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The whole idea behind not being too "nice" to chicks is basically just not trying to win them over with favors and gifts. There is a big difference between seeing her slip and fall in some mud, and offering to buy her a new outfit and offering your hand to lift her up. I almost always do things like open doors for her and ask her if she's comfortable with the car temperature.

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If your gonna help them just act around them as if they were an elderly person [1]you help them if needed and dont expect anything from them in return [2]when thanks is offered just smile and say thats no problem and be on your way dont wait around expecting a reward like the''nice guys''.

treat them the same as you would a 92 year old pensioner with a bad back and on a stick