Most of my social circle is made up of men who cant let go of women, who for reasons Ill try to explain, I cant stand. I feel betrayed by them and my guy buds. I have always been "bro before ho", never really dated women out of choice and fucked around so I don't understand their mentality.

When I split up with my ex she was a complete bitch, shagged one of my closest friends and tried to use that to ruin my relationships with the rest (manipulating people by strategically telling the ones she knew would keep it a secret because of fear of me and when it came out, pointed to them knowing). I didn't find out until about a month after we split but until that time I didn't mention not wanting anyone to see her. After I found out I messaged everyone I know saying roughly, "I haven't asked before now but circumstances warrant it, you either side with her or me". Now everyone including female friends all messaged me saying of course you, we only know her because of you, which is true; I met her abroad and brought her over. Now she has moved in locally and wont fuck off!

Despite what the women told me they all continued to see her and be friendly so I fucked them all off figuring that with the ex being my first "love" I couldn't have any connections or it would drag out the pain for me. Now I kind of expected this of the girls seeing as even though we are mostly all childhood friends, women can be very fickle. What I didn't expect was the resistance from the men in my life to be on my side with not wanting these women around.

Learning pick up has taught me just as much about men as women and I know they only want these women in their lives because they lack the skills to meet new ones and they are scared to let go but it still pisses me off. Its getting in the way of social occasions, e.g every year we do a secret santa and they have been invited. I cant go out with the guys anymore without them inviting or deliberately rendezvousing with these women. Since I ended the relationship I have made friends with new women but because I am one of the rare singles in the group its hard to make them mingle.

So my question is should I continue to try and help them (that may sound arrogant but I think I am right) or should I just try and start all over? I have known them for years and built up some real connections but I cant help but be pissed off with them all. Has anyone had anything similar?

p.s If anything is unclear or you need more info ill be monitoring this post with eagerness so just ask.

Thanks in advance for advice

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No use in changing them. Fuck them all. True friends would never betray. Move on.

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Don't Follow Someone Else's Path. Carve your Own. Be the person that you want to be not everyone else. Be Unique.

If you told them how you felt about the situation and they keep it up then they do not really care about you that much. I might try to find a new group of guys to roll with. Maybe see these guys once in awhile just in case you do value their friendship on some level.

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Thanks for the replies and advice guys, I was expecting to hear , "man up pussy" but it seems you agree I am in the right.

Dropping a whole load of people is going to be a tough challenge but I guess its what I need to do, its going to help my game anyway

Ace

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Lol...telling people to pick sides, it's almost like playing footises. Almost.


Obviously whoever fucked your ex isn't your friend. You included her into your social circle so don't expect her to fuck off when you two aren't exclusive anymore.

As for your male friends who have trouble with the ladies...really bro? You gonna leave them hanging with that evil bitch? Be a better man, you don't have to peel them off but show them how to pick up women. You don't have to do it directly but next time you guys are having lunch and you see a hot chick in the next table go hit on her.

You might get blown out of the water but they'll learn from what you're doing. You can also encourage them afterwards by making it into a game seeing who can get the most numbers in a certain amount of time.

LEAD through ACTION

Always take the moral high ground with this kind of shit. I prefer to adopt a "I don't give a shit" attitude with these kinds of people. By "I don't give a shit" I mean still have them in contact but why bother engaging/initiating conversation between them as they are fuckheads.

I understand it can hurt. My mate recently dumped his LDR who lives at home with his mates and he's here at university. She's been sending him ASD texts such as "HAppy 2nd year anniversity you fucking twat" and "Saw your friends the other day, they think you made the greatest mistake ever" all she wants is attention from you now. Girls feed off that shit, its greater then sex for them knowing that they can change a guys emotions just by talking to his friends.

Take the moral high ground, show it doesn't bother you.

i just give them a cold shoulder and dont pay them any attention.

By this do you mean immature? I dont understand :S
I dont want to abandon the guy just because he made one drunk mistake, I believe in second chances although I would no way trust him like I did. He is also one of three people that stays the fuck away from the women, maybe unsurprisingly :S

That last part is an excellent point and something I am going to remember in future.
They are mostly in relationships so it doesn't convince any of them. Im missing out on love blah de blah is how I imagine they think.
But this is what angers me so much, its blindingly obvious to me so why not to them!? II can read it when someone else s current or ex girlfriend is pushing their buttons (and point it out to them) so how can they miss it!? That is what makes me question if they are worth my time at all, if they know whats going on but don't care for the sake of having women in their lives, AKA chodeness

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"Lets get out of here..."

Just because you have some differences it's not worth losing your friends,
just be honest and if they invite you to go to the couples party simply reply,
you would love to go but you don't have a special someone so you wouldn't be comfortable attending and you would rather try to meet a person at some bar.