hey guys

an encounter last night has led me to turn to you more learned men for some advice. i hope you can help! i was out with two mates. we went to a restaurant bar to start and immediately noticed a group of ten or so girls that turned out to be a hen party. we bought some drinks and sat down at which point three of the girls started talking to us. one of them was absolutely smoking hot. i led the conversation and kept it light hearted and cheeky. the girls seemed keen and were clearly up for a big night.

after 20 or so minutes of banter with the girls and getting to know them, they were getting ready to move on to the next bar. i told the hottie to give me her number and to text me where they end up, to which she insisted instead that i give her my number, which i duly did. she called me straight away to check the number presumably and so i had her number. game on

about 45 minutes later she text me telling us where they were and asking if we were coming. i didn't reply and we made our way there about 45 mins after the txt. when we arrived the girls were there standing at the bar. i gave the hottie a big smile and a hug and bought a load of drinks for everyone. by this point the girls were more inebriated than when we had met them an hour or so ago. the hottie was being very flirty (touchy and wanting to be real close) with both me and one of my friends, who has a gf. i was getting all the signals from her so when she prudly showed me her earrings, i began to nibble on her ear. my friend came over and started on the other ear. she said he was sensual about it whereas i was a bit rough. i told her i only do dominant to which she replied she liked to be dominated. i had a quiet word with my pal and told him to give me some space with this girl. i took her to a really quiet seated area of the bar where there were very few other people. i whispered sweet nothings in her ear and started to kiss her. we made out for a while then came back to the main area of the bar where we danced with the others, all the while not being able to keep our hands off one another.

after a while i took her back to the making out spot where we kissed and talked. she told me that she had a boyfriend who she wasnt that into and that she felt he didnt appreciate her. she told me she wanted excitement in her life. she was getting pretty into things with her hand up my shirt and telling me how fit i was. she suggested a trip to the disabled toilets for a fuck to which i told her to be patient cos she was coming home with me anyway. a little time later a friend of hers decided to get all upset and start crying cos the hottie was coming with me and this would mean cheating on her boyfriend. by this time it was pretty late (2.30 ish) and i was feeling pretty leathered. i tried to persuade the hottie to come with me but to no avail. she looked like she wanted to come but a few of her friends were having none of it. i said goodbye and began my stumble home. some what frustrated, i tried to call her a few times and left a lame needy message, the content of which i cannot remember. i then text her and told her how beautiful she was and asking her to call me, that was about 3am this morning and i didn't hear back

now heres the thing. this girl lives nowhere near me but i am prepared to travel to see her and to put in the time and effort to close this. she has family around here so does come to london every so often. you know when things just feel right?, well this felt right. i think she felt it too. i'm shit scared of fucking this up cos she is without doubt the hottest thing i have ever had. i need help with the next move, especially the wording of a text to her to initiate conversation once again. i think i fucked up by calling and texting her last night. please help guys, i really can't let this one get away! if you need anymore info, just ask

so how long should i leave it before i text her?

when i text her, what should i say to ensure a response?

Ok, so I have been thinking of a few potential first txts, thought I would run them past you:

1. When you long for fun and excitement in this life, the only number you need is right here. Press the button to begin the ride

2. This genie grants you three wishes. What do you wish for? Be aware that your wishes can come true.

3. Together, you and I could be dangerously fun

Number three relates to the fact that I was telling her I was dangerous when I met her (which is a load of old tosh) just to keep her excited. I am conscious that none of the above pose a question which perhaps they should. What do you think?

You had a situation where there was not one, not two, but up to TEN potential obstacles and yet you were confident this would all go smoothly?

Don't know where you're from but in England we have a saying "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush". It basically means when you've got a guaranteed thing don't pass it up for something that might not even happen.

That was my exact thought. What a frustrating story, guitarhero27 has basically lost the deal. I felt good about myself after reading his post.

Remember one thing: there are no guarantees in life. You gotta take your chances when they come by. Use your game to woo other hot babes and fuck them as soon as you can. NEVER wait with girls.

yeh definitely see that now chaps, should have acted in the moment and taken it while it was on offer. at the time my thinking was she was definitely coming home with me. we were all over each other and a lot of sexual chat, how she was looking forward to it etc. i thought better to take my time over her when i got back to my place rather than a manky toilet. a little time after this moment, one of her friends started getting all upset and crying and wanting to talk to her, i guess to get her away from me. the chick i was with stuck up for me and calmed her friend. i was soon back with the chick kissing again and we agreed we were going back to mine and to leave. when we tryed to leave the same friend got all involved stopping her from coming. i wasnt going to beg so i just said goodnight and left. stupidly i called a few times and left a voicemail on my walk home (i blame the alcohol)! that was friday night. i haven't been in contact since.

I dont want to leave it too long before contacting this girl as i don't want the emotions and memories to fade of me in her head. she lives a long way away, so i am looking to keep in contact until she is next in my part of the world again, around christmas time. i'm obviously going to continue going out meeting new chics but i want to keep this one on the burner as i'm sure i can f-close it.

just need some help with initiating contact once again. i was thinking of this as an initiator tomorrow morning:

If you think I have forgotten about you, then you are wrong!

or

Did you think I had forgetten about you? If so, you are wrong

is this too direct? too needy? what of the other texts i mentioned above? perhaps ppl do not know exactly what to say, so how about the sort of things not to say? i look forward to reading your responses

You should follow that with "now guess which door I am at" and "I want to see what your insides look like".

Don't hurt yourself dude, there are decent text openers you can borrow here:

list-of-text-messages-game-vt21175.html

Yes those texts will make you sound needy. Just call her during Christmas time to find out if she's in the same city as you.

By the way, often girls have these jealous friends who won't let their friends get laid if they themselves are not getting laid. This is when wingmen come handy.

you need to improve your text game badly....

and can't believe you didn't fuck her, after your first makeout you should have turned off her phone, and lead her out of the venue

and can't believe you refused a bathroom fuck

don't expect this girl to flash her little pussy again once you re-engage her, she's going to be in a different emotional state than that night

You should forget about this one for now, and next her.

You called her AND sent her messages on your way home.. It's gonna be hard to get this one back on track, and it's not worth it for a oneitis! Put her on hold for now, and if you still feel like gaming her in a month or two, reinitiate contact then! Remember that she can't be too open talking to you since she has a boyfriend.

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