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Hello guys, I have heard about the Gunwitch method which I think are very good for me, because all the clubs at the area I live in closes around 5 am, and the clubs are very loud, so its a bit hard to get a real conversation going, so I just head to the club 1 am to start dancing with my mates and having a good time.

When its around 4 am I'm starting to find a girl which wanna come with me home, I have not read the Gunwitch method but should I do it or should I read the mystery method?

Here are some facts about me.

I'm 18 years old.
I'm a virgin.
I'm a player when it comes.. Tunged with 3 girls on the same group when I was younger.
All I wanna do is just get laid, and have a good time with my friends
I only like girls which is naughty.
I have a well tanned ripped body.

What would be best for me?
The Gunwitch Method or The Mystery Method?

It's a tie, both suck equally.

Get a hooker, it will save you much time, but seriously I have not looked at gunwitch ever. I am currently reading mystery method in more detail. I have applied just the outline of the M3 model before and it got me laid. I am sure it can do the same for you. It's just a very difficult method to learn.

Do your method. Try out different shit, see waht works, what doesn't, what fits best for you, and do that. Adapt game to yourself, not the other way around.

Could not agree more, use MM as an outline like karma said, then adapt it and make it your own. Everything has a routine in life, you just gotta identify the stages. When you do such you are that much closer to mastering your craft. Only next step is a smooth transition to the next stage and closing.

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here is MM and gunwitch for dummies you can make your choice:

MM:
-ask for an opinion on something related to you being a social person (cool)
-tease your target and give her negative compliments (compliments with a push pull aspect) and tell cool stories
-ask her questions about herself in relation to things you like and dis-like see if she matches up
-try to kiss her after 3 signs she is interested in you
-exchange commonalities
-ground your life out to her (tell her a story about your life from child hood on)
-express a vulnerability (weakness)
-isolate her
-make out until she is horny
-plow through lmr and close
-close 3 more times to start a relationship
-close on day 2 (or after approximately 7 hours)


Gunwitch:
-get horny
-match her vibe
-be touchy
-don't smile or be nice to other guys, don't tell jokes
-talk about her, and when she asks you questions, switch topics to movies and random fluff that you have in common
-keep talking to her while imagining dirty things, stay horny and touchy
-don't leave no matter what unless she tells you to fuck off
-no matter what ask her to your house at the end of the night with ''It's getting late, I've got some drinks back at my place''
-don't take phone numbers only try to fuck them same day
-find out right away if a girl will let you touch her, if not, find a new girl
-only look for girls that give you eye contact or a vibe that they are interested, (go for girls you think are already into you)
-handle LMR, just like in MM, agree and plow


to be honest, both can work, and both have some interesting ideas, but really, I think if you want a linear model this one would be more simple

-go talk to lots of girls, say hi, hows the night going, check for girls that are friendly make fluff for 1 minute then leave

-come back and re-approach the friendly girls (start with the friendly ones you found the hottest, only go for the girls that actually tried to talk to you), give them a compliment on their physical appearance, (sexy, hot, cute, smoking w.e you wan't or other variations) let them know you want to get to know them

-ask them about their hobbies and interests see if you have anything in common, every time they have something in common with you just say WOW THAT IS SO
-awesome
-amazing
-cool
-hot
-cute
-adorable

and give them some kino to reward how you feel and stress the point start with
-shoulders
-hand around shoulder with compliment from above looking at friends (skip this one if she is alone)
-hug
-tell her to kiss you on the cheek
-try to kiss her (if you are nervous about this one plenty of stupid routines to get around your lack of confidence, you gotta just do it)

if you get a make out, start trying to get her to your house asap, just use excuses
-it's sort of boring here, lets go to my house I got some drinks there
-man there is this awesome movie I have back at my place I would love to show it to you
-there is this great song, I have to show it to you, it is back at my house
-man I have this amazing dog at my house, it does tons of tricks, you gotta see this thing, we should go check it out tonight
-I got this amazing 400 channel hd tv, it is so awesome, you gotta check this out, (objection:BUT IT'S 400 HD CHANNELS GIRL, YOU SERIOUS?)
-I have this really huge craving for some spaghetti girl, we should head home to my place and make some


once you have her home, do your best to make out with her, if it doesn't work 1st time, take off your shirt and try again, if she asks you what your doing, just say, this is how I get comfortable at my house, if she doesn't then 2nd time, take off your pants into your boxers, if she asks again repeat the same thing (how I get comfortable), if she absolutely won't then it is up to you at that point, you can just whip out your dick and start stroking it, ask her for a hand, if not finish up in front of her and kick her out (this is if you don't know her and it is a same night thing)

also there are plenty of other ways to handle LMR, and im sure you can find them on this forum

if you get stuck at any point but it was going good, don't try to plow to hard, just ask her for her number, and move on looking for a different girl to one night stand, follow up on your numbers either (that night if you didn't get a ONS, or the next day with something stupid and random to ping for interest and find out how many WHOS THIS?, did you get, and how many don't answer, if they don't answer don't bother with them, if they say WHOS THIS?, just say the man of your dreams/prince charming/the pope/barack obama), anything else just try to turn it into a meet up, same sort of shit, hit on them, get to know them, try to get them to your house, stick to the plan, if she falls off, stop contacting her, find other girls that follow the plan, do this alot and your potential is pretty endless, approach enough and you can be looking at some pretty heavy abundance, as long as you are not a ditch troll (ugly for you simple folk), even then you will still find girls that want to fuck you, just need to approach more
GOOD LUCK

Mystery method = make yourself sound like your something worth sleeping with and then hope she'll sleep with you... After 7 hours.

Gunwitch method = being sexual to get sexual nuff sed.

I'm going to read the Gunwitch method today.. But when you say "Make her get horny" what about I show out my abs? I have a really great sixpack.. I also heard the you shouldn't give a shit about others.. So why not just show my sixpack, it will create a sexual tension, it will turn the girl out you know.. I'll just show her my abs just for a quicker advantage to take her home. What do you think of that idea??

you can try that out, but girls are less visual then guys, whereas you see tits and pop a boner, girls see abs and think cute he is in shape, but It wont nessicarily make them wet or anything, touching them will do you more good in that reguard or being flirty (verbal sexuality) with a context that sex will happen in future (giving them anticipation for sex) will create tension, both of those things tend to turn a girl on more then visual stimulation, even though being visually appealing sure doesn't hurt, probably be better off letting them feel/touch the abs

gunwitch reminds me of 60years of challenge. From what I read about gunwitch on this post, I would say stick more to MM if you want to follow a method, but still look at both methods at one point. I would say MM gives you better quality, gunwitch is more for quantity and it's much quicker for getting girls. This being the case, gunwitch will not work in a party or anywhere with your social circle involved. Also, I say learn both at one point because I am saying to follow MM more, but MM has it's faults. For example I am guessing gunwitch is more about escalating more and it seems to want you to take girls to your place asap while MM needs you to finish part of your check list of things to do and say before you can even get a kiss. This actually held me back for a long time and made it harder for me to follow my urges and get that kiss. I tend to disregard a lot of the MM and add lots of escalation if all I want is to get laid. That's just my way of looking at this.

Why wouldn't the Gunwitch method work at parties? I need to know about this mystery method, I have everything ready, and I'm starting to read and watch movies about this method...

I have read the gunwitch method.. All I can see is that all you need is to isolate for the most of the time..

But why wouldn't gunwitch work at a loud party or a bar?

I have not read gunwitch, but I assumed that it works on being direct from what I read on this post. If that is the case then at a proper party with people form your social circle only, it wont really work. You would have to open indirectly and build attraction like that and when the person is interested you can keep moving on to make it look like it sort of just happened, which is actually favoured very much by women.

I suggest you field test things first before judging methods as I have had most of my success from being direct within social circles, as well, you do not open directly with gunwitch, or give direct compliments or tell jokes, or be entertaining, the focus is on sexual state transfer, physical escalation, and isolating/closing the deal without breaking rapport

basically try to get a close until a girl basically tells you to fuck off (make the ho say no)

thats intresting

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From my perspective I think the gunwitch method will only work if your famous and hot...

Mystery method will work on everyone.. maybe you won't get laid but you can get a phone number.. Am I right? going to study the mystery method very soon, I need to understand this method correctly.. Can you pickup chicks back to your place by the mystery method? or does it take 7-10 hours as he tells?