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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:23 am 
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Hey guys i need advice from you!.

First i will introduce myself, so im a 20 y/o guy, in general i have pretty good skills with girls. I am a very good looking guy and im not shy at all. Face to face i handle the women easily, i escalate into sexual stuff easily as well. However, my biggest problem is over the phone or over text. It seems like im a very straight forwarded guy and my strength is in boldness, charisma and good looks. It is good for first contact or in parties, but shortly after first contact my POOR "game" skills play against me. I only operate on my animal instincts and i dont understand how women think.

SO here an example story:

Ive met that girl and we started texting a lot in the beginning.
At first she was all over me, texting a lot, asking questions, wishing good nights, good day at work etc.
Then i saw her again in a sort of “public date” she came with a girlfriend of hers. The next date, we went to movies together and went to a bar, then made out in the car ( no sex tho).

So from this point she started to fuck me in the brains. We still texted a lot, but she started to manifest the following behaviours:

1. Asking things like “Do you want us to meet again?” and then obviously leading the conversation towards me asking her out. Then the moment i ask her if she want to do xyz tonight or tomorrow, she then would not answer for the rest of the day and then reply something lame like “i have forgot my phone in the car”
2. She would even ask me out herself, but the moment i say yes lets do this at this time she would find some excuse not to go.
3. She would often ask me what im doing, the moment i answer that im already doing something she would say : “oh i wanted you to come sleep at my place”. And if i then suggested that i can come after, it is either ignore or some lame excuse.
4. She would say to me “fuck texting we should see each other” then suggest that it is my fault that i am too busy.

This went for like 2 weeks. So then one day she ignored my text once again and i got pissed off and decided not to talk to her anymore, so i stopped initiating communication.

After around a week she started to text me ” oh i haven’t had any news from you”, ” oh do you have a girlfriend you didn’t tell me about or do you want to see me ?”
So we ended up seeing each other last weekend having a good date. Then for a day i dont hear anything from her, ok understandable i didn’t text her either. But on the next day she says hi to me, i reply back then i get NO answer for the rest of the day. And today i started conversation but she pulled the classic ignore me after a few replies.

So now i am debating what is going on?
1. She is interested in me, and just playing hardcore games with me
2. She is not interested in me, and she is just toying around
3. She is crazy, and doesn’t know what she wants.

Give me any advice or opinions on this situation guys


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:45 am 
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This is so frustrating mate! I get pissed off with such childish behaviour.

If I was in your shoes I would stop texting her and as soon as she texts me I would send her a message to setup a meeting and if she flakes or if she finds a lame excuse I would reply with "We keep on arranging dates but rarely meetup. When you are ready to see me then give me a call and we will arrange it. Take care."

She ignores you, she manoeuvres herself through sittuations to arrange meetings and then bales, she looks to me like she is an attention seeker and I hate that.

Either next her completely or if she pulls that stuff in you again just tell her "call me when your ready to go out. Take care"

This will send her the message that you dont wonna play games with her anymore. And if she does that again then just ignore her COMPLETELY!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:53 am 
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Thats sort of what i did before our last date i just told her "wanna meet tomorrow?", then no answer then i said " you have 5 minutes to give me a positive answer", then she agreed lol.

But i think "call me when your ready to go out. Take care" would be a good idea if this situation repeats itself.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:06 am 
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Thats sort of what i did before our last date i just told her "wanna meet tomorrow?", then no answer then i said " you have 5 minutes to give me a positive answer", then she agreed lol.

But i think "call me when your ready to go out. Take care" would be a good idea if this situation repeats itself.
My friend if she does this again then you are left with no other choice since you have been patient with her, you have shown interest but she thinks she can play you by doing what she is doing. Well that thing doesn't work on you and if she understands it then she will stop doing it because it will be pointless.

I had worse situations! I did what I told you above. Told her with an honest and sincere way that this isn't the behaviour I like and that this isn't how I treat you so if you wonna see me just tell me when and where and stop arranging meetings and cancelling. She obviously understood that her thing wasn't working for me and changed.


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How old is this girl? She sounds very childish or very hormonal.

"you have 5 minutes to give me a positive answer"
She seems to respond better to commands, so be more commanding, make it known you have other options, and if she is not coming some one is ready to take her place, and stop chit chatting on general topics by text, make it more seductive/sexual/fun.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:39 pm 
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Lots of girls don't know what they want. Some of them are absolutely manipulative about it. But most of them don't realize they're doing it.

Imagine two conflicting impulses.

"I suck as a human being, but I feel good about myself when a guy gives me attention."

vs.

"I suck as a human being, so any guy who would give me attention must be a complete loser."

The bad news it's an impossible situation. Whether the guy gives her attention or not, she feels shitty. The good news is it's HER impossible situation, not yours. If you ask what's best for you, you realize it's better to not give her attention so you aren't a complete loser in her eyes.

Literally the worst thing you can do is lavish her with attention and remove all doubt. "I am available at any time any place, you name it. It's okay if you cancel because I'm always available." You are now a loser.

Scarcely better is "I am NOT available at any time and any place, and I DEMAND that you make time for me." "I don't like girls who play games. Either you are interested in me or you're not." You're still a loser who needs her time more than she needs yours.

Okay, you say. If you don't give her attention, how do you get the girl?

Well, besides the fact that there are lots of perfectly well adjusted girls out there, and that a guy with a lot of self respect would probably spend his time where his time is appreciated... Those same self-respecting guys are also able to give out a LITTLE bit of attention to EVERYONE without it becoming a huge emotional investment.

Have you ever thought about texting her while you pursue other girls? (Or if there are no other girls, at least pretending there are other girls?) "Hey what's up? ... Haha that's hilarious! ... Nah, I'm busy this week but have a great weekend!"

Two things will happen. Either they'll cool off completely, which is fine because you're pursuing other girls. OR, she'll have 5 conversations where she WANTS you to ask her out, and you DON'T, which means she spends all her time between those conversations wondering and wanting. SHE is the one who makes the emotional investment, not you.

For good measure, one good way to deal with flakes is to avoid big planned dates. Big planned dates allow them to get nervous, or get bored (because they don't want to go out, they just want to be asked out). No friday night dinner and a movie. Try the Wednesday afternoon "yo, I'm in the neighborhood doing some shopping, what are you up to?" If she's free in the moment, there's no pressure of a huge date, and no excuses either. And if she's not free, you haven't offered to drive across town on a friday night, so you haven't really invested anything. You were already in the neighborhood doing something.


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