As I posted earlier,

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I'm trying to game with a girl, who allowed me to kiss, kino to even ass, but never breast, not to mention sex.

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She has loved a guy, deeply, for almost two years. The guy has wife. She even took flight to have sex with him. If I'm right, she just had sex with him half month ago. She tried hard to forget the guy, but, as we all know, attraction is not a choise.

Logically, she knows that this won't be good, she needs to find a guy who could marry her.

I guess that's why she's persuading herself to try to be with me. This may explain why she allowed my kiss, part of kino, but not more.


What a powerful pick-up-art! Any love story exactly follows the A-C-S frame.

The "funny" thing is that i get all the classic IOIs, like she playing her hair, restarting conversation, approaching me if I backturn, allowed my body kino.

Techniquely, the wrong reactions I did are, I think, I'm always too urge. For the "bait-hook-reel-release", I can never "release" smoothly. And I can never move into a Seduction SPAM, even I can easily be with her in private room, everyday. The SPAM can always be joking, playful, but once I tried to evoke the seduction SPAM, she'll respond using joke. Does this mean I don't even made enough attration?

Generally, I'm gonna quit here. Considering the girl is even thinking of that guy while being kissing with me. And once I was in a friend-zone, or I would say I'm still in a friend-zone now, even I escalate to her ass, since that's just nonsexual touching.

Or any other suggestion?

Just game her on the side, I dont see a problem here at all except your ego. Do you really give a shit when you kiss her she thinks of someone else, for fuck sakes when I kiss some girls I think about the mail I just got cause I can give a rats ass. It was a package so give me some leeway, I still get that camper feeling when I get mail.

Point is, just game other girls, get other lays, and if she opens up to you, than good. Just stop showing so much interest in her, give it a bit. Let her chase you, dont play too hard to get, but play im a bit busy fuck off, than yea we can make out but only for 15 mins I'm busy... then let her invest herself more and more till you got her on your dick like a fat kid on cake.

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To me this girls sounds like she doesn't know what she wants and just chases her whims. For what it's worth, I would walk away.

That being said, if you are still dead set an one-itis with this girl, probably your only bet would be to put HER in YOUR friend zone. Let her babble on about the guy, shake your head, give her hugs, hand her tissues, rub her neck, and then drop hints about your active and happy dating life.

Let her know you are busy with other dates when she asks if you are available. Let her see you happy and living life while she is sad and lonely. If you play it right, she will eventually realize that she has access to a "great guy" right in front of her and test that theory by making herself physically available to you.

If the opportunity rises, don't get all nutty over it, it's just a shit test. Have sex with her, make it good, but don't assume she's magically in love. It will probably take a long term FWB situation before she would ever consider "Dating" you with the history you described.

Good luck with that, again my suggestion is move on and leave her behind. She sounds like a train wreck.

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Except for the busy part fuck what this guy says, sorry bro, but worst advice ever... put yourself in the friend zone, buddy the friend zone is a two way street regardless if you like it or not. You can be madly in love if shes not too bad you aint getting or vice versa.

Just game other girls please dont be irrational about this your a pick up artist not a fucking romantic comedy.

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Best of Luck
-Raphael

Aspiring Artist

Read the adventures I take as I discover my way towards becoming a mPUA or a dPUA (decent PUA) including completing the StyleChallenge ---> raphaels-journel-vt119594.html

An opinion, I've used that approach with great success many times. This is why I never post on this site anymore. Everyone thinks everyone elses advice sucks and thiers is the only way.

At the end of the day there is no one-size-fits-all approach to women. There are patterns and it depends on the particular woman and her type. Girls give you everything you need to know about how to get them in bed if you just listen and observe.

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"Would it be wrong to join sexaholics anonymous to pick-up chicks?" "...yes, and stop eating that baby."

-Psych3r-