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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:51 am 
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So this girl and I are lying on the grass, goes well. Making out.

She goes "Are you honest?"
I reply "Always."
"Do you have a girlfriend?"
I reply with an honest "No."

Pause.

"Why should it matter anyway?"
"Cause I don't want to be the other girl. The one you're cheating on her with."

I know, stupid for me to have asked. Whatever.

Then she goes "I have a boyfriend. How do you feel?"
I reply "No different."
"Really?" She wasn't expecting this. Her attitude is playful though.

"I don't really have a boyfriend. I was just testing you. You got zero."
"Zero out of zero?"
"Zero out of ten." All with a smile and playfulness.

I believed her no boyfriend thing. I do think it was just a test. And I don't really care.

I just want to be better prepared for such a situation next time.

What would have been a better way to handle this? I was calm in my answers.

Thanks guys.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:01 am 
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yeah i have a hundred girlfriends. you can be 101


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So this girl and I are lying on the grass, goes well. Making out.

She goes "Are you honest?"
I reply "Always."
"Do you have a girlfriend?"
I reply with an honest "No."

Pause.

"Why should it matter anyway?"
"Cause I don't want to be the other girl. The one you're cheating on her with."

I know, stupid for me to have asked. Whatever.

Then she goes "I have a boyfriend. How do you feel?"
I reply "No different."
"Really?" She wasn't expecting this. Her attitude is playful though.

"I don't really have a boyfriend. I was just testing you. You got zero."
"Zero out of zero?"
"Zero out of ten." All with a smile and playfulness.

I believed her no boyfriend thing. I do think it was just a test. And I don't really care.

I just want to be better prepared for such a situation next time.

What would have been a better way to handle this? I was calm in my answers.

Thanks guys.
You did most things right. A few things I would've done differently:

- When she asks, "Are you honest?" I would respond with something besides a direct answer. She's testing me to see if I would say I am honest; this gives her the thought that whenever I do something that seems dishonest, she could say, "But you said you were honest!". You are making a promise on something you cannot possibly deliver on, unless you are 100% honest all the time, which no man really is. Instead of making the promise that I am always honest, I would tell her that I am as honest as I need to be, because that is honestly the truth.

- Later on when she reveals that she doesn't have a boyfriend and says "you got zero", it was all cool. But then you focus on the fact that you aren't scoring high in her system, so it makes you want to try harder and end up with a higher score, which sends a message of neediness to me. Instead of focusing on that, I would flip the script and instead ask her if she was honest. Her response doesn't matter, as long as she complies and doesn't ask a question. If she replies with an answer, give her a reward as a smile, if she instead asks something like, "Why should it matter?", then I would just punish her by closing off and presenting the conversation with a silence, which would then place social pressure on her for not complying.


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Well the thing is I wouldve normal gone with 1000, you're 1001 or something like that.

But the tone was different, it was calmer. Not hostile at all. Just calm and actually a little more serious. It was a genuine question, to which I responded with a enuone answer.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:11 am 
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I keep in mind to remain a mystery, and get them to open up / invest more into you. dont tell them nothing, tell them some stuff like DHV stories and awesome crap u did, how u are preselected, leader, helped your litlle sister

She goes "Are you honest?"
>here she is trying to get you to qualify yourself. Id throw her a hoop, which is basically the same question back("....are you honest?), then i'd go from there asking her more questions like "oh, you are honest?? oh really now? a box floating in the desert, what color is it?" from there with what know about color psychology and "the cube" game, you can find out a bit more about her, getting her to invest more into you.

"Do you have a girlfriend?"
>again, you can use a loop, or like, you can make her chase you:
u:depends (this is a curiosity hook, makes her curios)
hb:on what??
u:I feel like i can be so open to you about this kind of stuff, but idk. (drama)
hb:tell me!!
u:see me tommorow at xxx. i'll tell you then, maybe

>she goes to bed not knowing if you have a girlfriend and goes crazy waiting for tommorow, but you dont have to tell her because you said you might tell her


"Why should it matter anyway?"
"Cause I don't want to be the other girl. The one you're cheating on her with."
blow me first and we’ll take it from there.
or
The thought of sleeping with you is past my wildest dreams, but I think my friend X has a crush on you. (push pull kind of)

Then she goes "I have a boyfriend. How do you feel?"
"You say that likes its an accomplishment." REMAIN MYSTERY.


"I don't really have a boyfriend. I was just testing you. You got zero." (i'd assume point scale if she said this to me, like oh u got 0 points, not 0 out of ten)

u:lets see, you made out with me +5, tell me you have a boyfriend - 5, don't hug me -20, tisk tisk. I'll see you tomorrow, (as walking away) oh, and wear something cute



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:52 am 
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seems like you handled this fine,

she seems interested in you, she tested, you just stayed congruent

she gives you massive ioi and asks if you are single, you answer honestly, after she qualifies you as to if you are honest

she wanted to see if you were honest, you demonstrated honesty

the real part of this test came when she said she had a boyfriend, she wanted to see how you would react, and what sort of thing you will say, you didn't, just stayed sure of yourself and projected congruence, you stayed honest, THIS BLEW HER FUCKING MIND

the only thing with this whole thing, is in this situation, you could be more pro-active in defining the frame, you could take more steps to lead, rather then sitting back and allowing her to pace this interaction, it got to this point somehow, you could be fine in this point, or it could have been avoided, but it is not nessicarily a bad thing or a good thing, it is just a girl showing interest in you

but don't take that the wrong way, you still took a shot at leading, right at around ''zero out of zero?'' you had the frame, changed from a serious discussion to a fun one you were thinking of having

being better prepared for this situation, if just wanting to know how to react, the trick is, don't react man, there is no way to react properly, lead in the first place so that you don't have to react

as for what would have been a better way to handle this?, there is nothing wrong with how you handled this, but you could have just lead the discussion somewhere else when you saw this, if you didn't like where it was going, you don't have to invest in threads that don't interest you, cutting them, then moving on, will only force her to invest more if she wants to revive the thread, and at least you get some investment out of her before you commit to a response, and all you have to do to pass a shit test (aka congruence test), is remain congruent to the frame you want to present or just don't take the test to begin with, the girl either finds the frame you are presenting attractive, or doesn't, compliance will tell you everything you need to know


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