Fuck the PUA Industry. Fuck all of you bitches wearing breacelets and hats. Fuck you if you're using routines. Fuck you if you're buying into all the PUA bullshit.

Are you fooling yourself? Do you really think learning routines - learning how to fake "alphamale" bodylanguage is gonna attract girls in the long run? Why the fuck do you want to fake being an alphamale? This industry is nothing but a thing that capitalizes on the fact that you're a little bitch afraid of facing your own fears.

Got bad confidence with girls? Approach a 1000 girls with a german SM costume on telling them that you wanna marry them.

Afraid of speakin in public? Knock down snoop dogg the next time he's got a concert in your town and tell the world to suck your dick then proceed to sing the national anthem in your victoria secret underwar.

Afraid of the dark? Go into the woods with a knife and sleep there for a night

Afraid of violence? Get your ass kicked a 100 times.

Theese PUA things is nothing but a bad joke - I love the PUA industry - for one reason; it promotes change in people that normally wouldn't change - but what people need is not routines or funky ass bitch hats - they need to be challenged - to overcome their fear of women, of violence, of whatever the fuck they're afraid of.

When you realize that there's nothing in the world you're afraid of you'll start approaching every girl you're attracted to.. And guess what - you'll fail. Miserably. But from your failure with girls comes experience.. and with experience with girls you get pussy. And what's even better - with that kind of experience you'll develop your very own style of picking up girls - you'll develop what's called "natural game" - Your very own lines, you'll learn to learn their bodylanguage - you'll be able to read them like a fucking open book.

Stop using routines. Mysterys latest "get laid 1000 time a day 2.0" Is useless - it's nothing but a buffer against rejection. What you NEED IS REJECTION! You think that by using theese "routines" you'll avoid rejection - what you don't realize is that you need this rejection in order to get the love life, the economy or whatever the fuck you want.

Go out. Get rejected a hundred times a day. Do this for a month and I'll guarantee that if you ever meet this Mystery guy - or Gambler - or some other PUA you'll knock them on their ass.

- Koff.

Anyone else sick of these motivational threads?

We know.

Well said ..
most times change doesn't come from outside. its from inside!!

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I agree with some of this. Most PUA stuff is a pat on the back and "you can do it champ" material.

And changing also doesnt mean you get more women, just means you are changing.

If everybody is positive and fun to be around, then somebody is still going home alone

I think the problem with the PUA industry are basically 7 issues.

1) That the advice one actually needs isnt that much but that isnt too markatable so they fill good advice with bullshit or simple fluff talk. An e-book with 5 pages simply isnt marketable so lets say the same basic stuff on 200 pages instead sometimes with counterproductive advice.
The stuff you actually need to read isnt that much , almost all of the work comes from actual interactions with women.

2) Most PUA material doesnt focus on very important stuff like having a good job, being well groomed, dressing well , a strong social circle. This stuff is really important when having success with women.

3) To actually make a use of the PUA stuff you need to have some basic knowledge that allows you to realize what stuff works and what stuff doesnt. People with no social skills are going to be hugely misled by many pua material , to actually make the most out of it you need to have a clue. I would reccomend getting a social circle, meet women and ask advice from your most experienced friends AND THEN see what the PUA community has to offer.

4) In the forums many people are just full of bullshit, others are keyboard jockeys that repeat what mystery preaches and there is a small number of people that are actually trying to improve with women on a reasonable manner. If you dont have basic social skills and experience with women you wont be able to discriminate between the good stuff and the bullshit.

5) It actually hurts inner game if you dont use it properly. If you obssess over being the alpha male all the time there is 0 chance you are actually alpha.

6) It doesnt take into account that different women require complete different strategies. A hippie tree-hugging girl requires a complete different game plan than some materialistic diva.

7) It stigmatizes liking a girl like its an awful loser thing. Liking a girl and wanting her to be your girlfriend even though yoy havent kissed her is not per se bad. Its bad if you start obssessing over her and you refuse to move on when its obvious she isnt intrested but ffs having feelings for another person isnt one-itis its simply liking another girl.


To me this is just like a politics forum ( I actually like discussing politics) its good if you know the users that are worth reading.

Not to mention any idiot can write an ebook and write a blog. U may know information, still doesnt mean you are getting women, some may others are not.

Also, the simple fact that if a woman doesnt want to talk to you, no game is going to work, she wont give u the chance.

Usually, the women we want are THOSE kind of women. The hotter the woman the less willing she will be to talk to you unless u have something worthwile.

Looks, money, job, status.

PUA stuff will work on attractive, but not hot women.

Exactly, people don't get hurt much (at least I don't) if they get rejected from a job offer after sending your resume, interviews, etc. But majority of people get hurt from rejections with girls...

Thats natural, it's more personal getting rejected from a woman because you are wired to want her. Cuts to the core of being a man to be rejected by a woman, means you are not a worthy partner or a worthy candidate.

Of course, we have to train ourselve sout of that mindset and try to not give a shit.

I still think deep down it still hurts, we just try to not let it.

Black nail polish, boas, and peacocking shit aside, I have a lot of respect for people who wake up and realize, "I can do better and I can be better." Because so many people don't care enough and can't be bothered to try.

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That's true. But I think socialization has alot to do with that. Society's view is that girls should be earned. You have to work hard, be good at sports, musculer, etc to find the girls of your dreams. That's just not true. Socialization also make girls play hard to get when they want sex just as much as guys. I read about all this from the book by W. Anton, The Manual What Women Wants, and it really opened my eyes. Highly recommend it to everyone.

There is nothing wrong with feeling hurt after a rejection, in fact you should have a problem with being rejected, it means you did something that was wrong and that you need to improve on some areas.
The problem is when being rejected by a girl you like interferes with your normal life or when fear of rejection stops you from trying in the first place.

Well said. Sadly the desperate rAFCs will always be living in the fantasy magic world that their marketing team project into their head.

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You know that is all in your head right? A girls' willingness to talk to you comes down to your first impression, nothing more nothing less. Because a girl will have no idea how much money you have, if you have a job or not, nor your status when you first approach her. Remember within 15 seconds a girl decides if she basically wants to sleep with you or not. That is not to say you can change her mind. But the point is there is no way a girl can tell if you have money, a job, or your status in 15 seconds.

Just because you got rejected in no way means you did something wrong. Not every single girl is going to be attracted to you.

Honestly if a girl rejected me I wouldnt let it go right then and there that means I am letting a girl run all over me, so i would probably say she's just a number or that there would be more prettier girls. And maybe find something about her to critique her with.