I am a junior in high school. There is this sophomore girl iv'e been running my game on. I qualified her, broke rapport, and escalated everyday. I thought everything was going well.

Then I asked her out. She said no. At first I didn't think anything of it. I thought "she isnt attracted to me so what"

UNTIL

one of my girl friends showed me an update she posted on her blog:

"i say i want a boyfriend. and i do. i really do. but when the really cute and sweet and funny junior who i actually thought i liked asked me out, i couldnt say yes. i mean, i had some good reasons for rejecting him.
1. he’s really handsy
2. i dont really know him all that well.
but mostly my reasons sucked.
like, i was fucking scared as hell! i only really go for guys i’m friends with because if i’m friends with you i trust you.
thats the thing. i have such a hard time really opening up and trusting people that the only time i can open up enough to feel comfortable dating someone is when they are my really close friends, but i have so many guy friends that i’m pretty much just friend zoned by everyone.
i’m a mess.
i’ve rejected 2 guys in the last 2 months! wtf is wrong with me?
why can’t i just be comfortable being in a relationship with someone fun and new. why do i have to go for my friends? it only fucks up the friendships i value.
whatever. "

WHAT THE FUCK.

well escalation has failed me, what the hell.

it seems she doesnt know anything about me because she never ask, however i know SOOOOOOOOO much about her through adam lyons qualification.

guys this isnt friend zone. this is something different.

WHAT DO I DO?!

Become her friend, stop trying to game her and get to know her. Let her trust you, and don't escalate as much. You pretty much just "read-her-mind" moment. You know what she is thinking of you, what she wants, and more importantly what she needs.

So just fullfil her desires and she will be yours. I also regret writing it like that because she isnt a prize you receive after you beat the game, she is a person, but ehh what ever

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-Raphael

Aspiring Artist

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THE THING IS I ALREADY KNOW HER!!! IM PRETTY SURE SHE TRUST ME TOO.

-SHE SHOWED ME CHAPTER OF A BOOK NO ONE KNOWS SHE'S WRITING.

-SHE TOLD ME SHE WANTS TO RUNAWAY WITH BEST FRIEND TO LA WHEN SHES OLDER.

-SHE WANTS TO BE A WRITER WHEN SHES OLDER

-SHE WAS REALLY CLOSE TO HER GRANDMOTHER.

THE LIST GOES ON AND ON, BUT THESE ARE THE MAJOR ONES.

sorry about all caps. im just really confused because this is something ive never experienced before.

1. Why caps
2. Okay so you know some fun facts about her, but have you had a real 3 hr convo with her. Last night I had a 3 hr convo with a girl about random shit, do I know her, not at all. I probably learnt 3 things about her at most, but we grew as a "couple" so to speak.We know we can chat for 3 hrs or more about nothing, thats when she knows she can trust you.
3. why did I use a number sequence to represent my points.

Just call her and chat to her or VC do something and become a good friend but sexually escalate verbally tell her how sexy her laugh is or how XXX when she xXXX

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-Raphael

Aspiring Artist

Read the adventures I take as I discover my way towards becoming a mPUA or a dPUA (decent PUA) including completing the StyleChallenge ---> raphaels-journel-vt119594.html

thnx for the reply man appreciate it

im thinking of doing that a bit and i get what youre saying, but i like to do things fast.

do you think if i do something afc like buy her flowers or something and confess my feelings for her it would work, because it kinda seems like she just doesn't trust me.

or should i just be safe and stick do the whole friend think like you said. the thing im worried with that is she already rejected me and i dont want to fall in the FRIEND ZONE.

She knows you like her, what does flowers do? So no I dont think that is smart to do. Just get to know her personally.

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-Raphael

Aspiring Artist

Read the adventures I take as I discover my way towards becoming a mPUA or a dPUA (decent PUA) including completing the StyleChallenge ---> raphaels-journel-vt119594.html

how do i know when the time is right to bring it up again? im just really worried about swinging to far to the other side and reaching the FRIENDZONE.

No such thing if you do it right. I had a 3 hr convo, most people here would be like WDF, but this morning I woke up to a text saying "you love me just as much as I do "

I ended the convo with (obviously) its so cute how in love with me you are, see ur blushing, cmon steph control urself its embarrassing.

Just have fun, sexually escalate in your words, talk about what ever, and every now and then through in attraction spikes. I dont believe in this "system" where once u hit Stage X u dont need to go back to Stage W or so fourth. You can always throw in X YZ and W sometimes (why did i start with x and not y haha)

Edit: BTW proof of this is in a relationship, you can have sex with a girl the next day have no attraction and just comofrt, then sex, and so fourth. I know its a reach cause its achieved, but the point is, you are allowed to hop around.

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-Raphael

Aspiring Artist

Read the adventures I take as I discover my way towards becoming a mPUA or a dPUA (decent PUA) including completing the StyleChallenge ---> raphaels-journel-vt119594.html

This girl is a fucking mess wtf and your telling him to continue trying to talk to her? My god that blog was basically a message from the heavens above telling you to GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE! Find another chick goddamn. Why wait around for a girl who thinks she needs to know a guy for 2 years in order to be with him? Shes a waste of time man but if you really do like her and you dont have the "omg shes the only decent girl to show me moderate interest so far" mentality then just tell her whats REALLY on your mind or you'll end up getting a bunch of headaches my boy.

What she wrote on her blog was female Bullshit 101
Don't believe any of it. Girls say one thing and mean another This girl sounds like fuckin idiot.

I'll give you credit at least you asked her out.
But now your about to do the wrong thing and go the nice guy route and start kissing her ass she's going to loose respect for you and you'll be wasting valuable time trying to change her mind.
At this point I would ignore her and go for other women.

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You are all not understanding this kid is in HS. HS game is easy, just talk to her a bit so she can get to know you, make sure your staying sexual so she knows your intentions, but still have a convo so she gets to trust you more.

Than she is yours, she will be in love with you in seconds. Just be ready for clingy and drama That high school.

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-Raphael

Aspiring Artist

Read the adventures I take as I discover my way towards becoming a mPUA or a dPUA (decent PUA) including completing the StyleChallenge ---> raphaels-journel-vt119594.html

alright thnx guys! i appreciate the replys! Yeah guys remember im in highschool. most of the girls here are not as emotionally developed as the ones you deal with. and very much well not that sexually experienced either.

trust me ALL highschool girls are emotional wrecks!

Its not about being her friend, its about getting to know her. Just use this as experience to know how woman are and react. We all agree she is difficult and on the harder spectrum, so use it to your advantage and hone your craft. Do game others meanwhile though. Who said you need 1 girl in high school?

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-Raphael

Aspiring Artist

Read the adventures I take as I discover my way towards becoming a mPUA or a dPUA (decent PUA) including completing the StyleChallenge ---> raphaels-journel-vt119594.html

really appreciate your advice raph. you seem more understanding of my predicament.

so i guess try to actually get to know her more is my solution.

do you think i should also get to know her friends? because ive known her for 6 months now, i considered us friends, but she clearly doesnt. I think the reason she doesnt really consider me a friend is because i am not friends with her friends (not in her social circle.. juniors> sophomores haha) that might be the think that could also help push me closer to trust.

Raphael your telling this guy to play by her rules and waste time trying to talk to this chick for hours when he could be talking to girls who genuinely like him, and make things happen relatively fast? Sighhh lol man i wish i knew what i know now back in HS lmao woulda saved me alot more frustration. When the going isnt good just get going yo. You'll learn santaa you'll learn haha.