I have this girl, who is constantly saying I treat her like sexual object, that after im done with her, I will never talk to her again.

I try to rationalize with her but guess is impossible to do that with girls ive shouldve learn

She enjoys talking about sex and initiate.

Till now I only fingered her.

Told me that she never done that except with her boyfriends

She told me she only does sex with boyfriend, when she is in relantioships.

I told her I like being with her but I wasnt in love. And also told her that I would never enter a relantioship with a girl if I didnt have sex.

So any advice 0n how to bypass this.

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Oh! You've gotta be kidding me!

-forget what she says, focus on what she does (her body language); take note of what turns her on by getting to read her body to things you do. Once you've figured this out tease the shit out of her (push/pull)
-stop trying to rationalize things it's a great way to kill the moment and any sexual attraction you might have created. Don't TELL HER, show her.

I think this is awesome advice.
Especially, dont rationalize.

I love your honesty, which you showed by telling her you are not in love etc. i am a big fan of that.

For what its worth, this is what i would do:

I would tell her that i indeed see her as a sexual object (perhaps a bit more tact on the object). i would tell her that i think she is sexy, that she makes me horny. And that i just want to fuck her. Perhaps if possible multiple times. If we talk after we had sex, that is completely up to her. I would ask her why i would never talk to her again, without really expecting a real answer. i would end with telling her that i just want her, no strings attached. Then i would walk away.

perhaps not the best of strategy/method, but no way i would put too much effort into it. For a good seduction, emotional involvement is necessary, but at that time, i would try push/pull just as means of entertainment. That would be one of those rare times that i would honestly not give a rat shit about the outcome. For the simple reason that i have stated what i want, it is up to her is she takes it on or not.

cheers

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Rationalizing with a woman never gave me anything good.

It's good you've been honest, I'd maybe play it risky and be even more upfront. She might be withholding sex to see what are you made of. In these situations, I am always scared to look like a pussy, so I make my intentions clear. If she says I treat her like a sex object, I say "Well dear, we did not even have sex yet. But I promise I would treat you like one." You know, some C+F manner with subconscious "this is gonna be rough and good" vibe.

The bf talking sounds like a crap to me. She is trying to see what are you made of. I am advocate of a caveman approachso I would just ignore her talking and watch her body language, or how she physically responds to you and your touches. Sometimes it's best to shut up and escalate.

If she say this stuff while you two are in bed, she maybe only needs a little more comfort (while escalating)

So to sum it up, avoid any rationalizing, avoid anything that contains word "logic". Believe your instincts, play it risky, be prepared to lose her, realize there are plenty of them, be upfront, be the man.

Another idea is that she is just kinky. Maybe she wants you to escalate, maybe it's her sexual fantasy - some man taking her, she feels like a sex doll, like a slut.

Some of my lays were twisted in this way.

Don't enter a conversation with her about something like that... When she says that just say " ok ".. Play indifferent.. Let her warm you back up and repeat. She'll drop the act.

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You are doing too much of talking. When

Why not say something like "You are exactly right, you have a beautiful body that completely turns me on, I want to give you the best/multiple orgasm you've ever imagined"

If she brings up whether or not you'd call her tell her something like "Well you can make me laugh/your a good cook/you are (something thats a real quality and not sexual) So I'm calling you for sure"

Through experience I can say that its better to Agree and Escalate. These objections come up when you dont make intent or desire clear early on. Try it, I know it works

Good luck,
Marc

I think what she wants is to be shown you "love her" or "care about her" rather than just going to her place to hook up and shit, go out and do what your grandfather (or father - i dont know your age sorry mate) would have done. Take her out, go to a picnic, or some kind of walk, make it romantic yet sexual. Take her dancing or some shit that you know she enjoys, then bring her to her place, and make dinner, you can even buy the food before and drop it off in her fridge before you go out on your date. As you are making it, include her in the process and do that sexy "romantic comedy move" type of cooking getting chocolate on her nose kind of thing. Make salad and pasta, nothing to advance, even can make stuff mushrooms. Easy recipe just PM me if you want.

So to some it up, make it a classy date, go out somewhere she likes, then bring her home for dinner, even watch a flick on the couch, then at the romantic scene (lets say at titanic during the sex scene) you start to hook up, stop kind of like a freeze out, and shell want more later.

Hope this helps.

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