I gotts sgree with Ross Jefferies, hey his technique got me a date which I had tonight fun fun fun till the daddy took the T Bird away...

Anyway

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t62cnVDC0I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRaYoDA- ... re=related

Ross Jeffries kept painting himself into a corner. He's just as hypocritical as the PUA artists he's attacking. God damn he's ugly!

From watching that video tho...I feel that Ross Jeffries is twice as smart than the both the other guys put together..Those other guys just seemed like pansies..Dr. Phil included...He kept bringing up the "marketing language" to make Ross look bad, even though his first question was "how successful have you been as a business man?"....and he answered honestly...partly to blame is the language used to market his products.......Just one of the reasons I don't like Dr. Phil....he knows majority of the people who watch his show are dumbasses, so he uses the same tactics to sell ideas to them, as the PUA's use to bag women..but he tries to make everyone else look like an asshole when he's guilty of the same thing

Yes he is hideous looking, I guess that gives him more credibitly, if he can do it anyone can.

But he's got some kind of phsyhciatrist look about him, not easy to pull off the stuff he does.

But their all in it for the money, that's the bottom line

Ross Jefferies looks like an ugly version of that actor who is in every Adam Sandler movie, and I am not talking about schnieder, the other one.

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Of course he's got a "psychiatrist" look to him...He openly stated he's been learning/practicing NLP for over 20 years....so he is no stranger to psychology by any means

I hate the way how everybody laughed at RJ when there
was nothing funny about anything he said. The audience
members are ignorant and blind to what RJ is teaching
and has offered to the pickup community. He
is the god-father of pickup certainly but
that does not give Dr Phil the right
to make fun of him and
badger him into a
corner with the
audience members
in his hands. He can make them believe anything
if he wanted to. The fact that RJ even agreed to go
onto that show astounds me.

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Yeah, talk show host always try to make it look like "u are the scum here, I am the smart TV Host who is always right" and since it is their show they will be right.

Ive seen mystery and Neil Strauss on Conan and Jimmy Kimmel, They always have jokes to diminish the guests credibilty.

But the reason they go on is to publicize themselves, Same reason and actor goes on to promote his next movie. But it shows u how big of a business it is when a big late night TV show would have them on.

The show benefits from it too, more viewers

Too true man...The thing is that that footage you saw of RJ on
Dr Phil, that wasn't the full episode! RJ said in an interview
(with AJ and Jordan on pickup podcast) told them that
when he went on the show, there was a section
in where Ross shut up Dr Phil for a few seconds
on a specific question...he also DOMINATED
those other 2 from Mystery's school on the
show and they cut that
whole segmant out and aired the footage
on tv like you just saw.

RJ talks about it here --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uCIMs905_Y

I think this is the podcast link here (it's from AJ and Jordans podcast, if it
isn't i'll get it up ----> http://mp3.rapidlibrary.com/mp3.php?fil ... iew+part+1

Regardless, its fucked up that the media disregards probable and viable
information in exchange for sensationalism and ratings...

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NLP has been largely debunked. Ross Jeffries looks stodgy and out-of-touch, and his antiquated 80s hairdo didn't help either. He looked like fool trying to stave off feelings of irrelevance in a time where his so-called powers hold 0 clout. Desperate, much Jeffries? He was probably thanking the stars that somebody actually gave him the time of day in television world.

Could be a little of that. Maybe RJ is not getting the credit today for the movement he started and that bugs him.

NLP I think works but it's not an easy thing to do for amateurs, but u cant make people do something they wouldnt do normally.

So he's probably tapping into a womans subconcious on some way to motivate them.

even Presidents use NLP techniques when they give speaches, not sure its an exact science, but neither is subliminal messages or hypnosis

I didn't see the whole episode, nor would I care to waste my time watching it. But you'd think he'd try NLP on Dr. Phil, or perhaps Dr.Phil was too afraid that RJ would try to bone him.

Honestly, I can't imagine any of the HBs I've been with wanting to be in the same room as this Ross Jeffries creepo, based on his appearance alone. Also, his personality comes off as too intense and seeing him in other interviews he doesn't strike me as a particularly charismatic likeable guy but rather one with a superiority complex who's constantly trying to undermine his 'competition' - the same people he will adamantly deny as representing any real competition (but RJ, if they aren't competition why do you even address them so publicly and with such angst?).

Come on now, how can any normal intelligent guy buy into what this freak is peddling?

Same reason they buy into everyone else, they want to get women. Emotion trumps intelligence when it comes to women.

I dont buy into alot of stuff mystery says, some of his stuff makes perfect sense, but he RJ had to have been doing something right to be a millionaire selling seduction secrets.

He is very creepy looking, he looks like every phsychologist u ever saw, but even worse.

who knows, but his one technique that I tried on a whim worked for me, im not sure it worked cause of the technique or just that it worked itself out.

but as always "caveat emptor"

It was rhetorical question.

Oh Im not familar with Rhetors work LOL