You must be an amazing actor to have everyone in your life fooled that you are happy then if you are this depressed. I find it hard to believe that you don't let it show and it doesn't colour your character. You believe that it is everyone else that needs to sort things out, but again you are just trying to blame your problems with your life on an outside source so you don't have to try to change it and so that you can hope it will fix itself.

None of your friends are on here telling us that they are thinking about committing suicide, so they don't have the problem that we're dealing with and if you're just gonna continue to lay it all on them and place all the responsibility at their feet, then you're gonna be dead within the year. It's not their problem and they're not gonna try to fix it; it's your problem and you need to fix it.

This is the equivalent of saying that if you play a round of Russian Roulette, that if you lose, it wasn't your fault, it was the world's fault for giving you the bad luck to get the bullet. Why not just decide to be smarter than the guy who is willing to die and take your life in your own hands and make a better choice. Don't leave it up to others to determine your fate, because that's not living, that's existing.

If you just sit back and let others determine whether you live, then they're gonna dissappoint you and all this will have been for nothing. If you make a conscious decision to make changes in your life that will benifit you and you care about bettering yourself on a daily basis, then in 3 months, you'll feel like a new man and you'll look back on this proud of what you've accomplished, because it was all you and no one else, whether you got help along the way or not, you did it for you.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye

Don't want pity? Then why all this?

From your first post in this thread:
and then
From your intro thread:
followed with the excessively dramatic

And then for some reason you have this entitlement complex like the world owes you something:
and the grand finale:


I won't even repeat our conversations via PM because I don't think that is something that one ought to do, but needless to say, it was more of the same.

If this isn't one MASSIVE pity party, then I don't know what is. You come in here whining pretty much nonstop about all of your problems, yet when the advice pours in on how to change it and take charge of your situation....you ignore it and pile on the complaints. I don't want you to pretend your life is great--where would that get you. But you apparently can't own up to your responsibility in this situation. Everyone could give you all the tools in the world, but you don't have the fortitude to use them, so what does it matter?


Just one question--if therapy doesn't work, other forums can't help, friends are leaving you, girls are repulsed by you...I have known people that have fallen off of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down and they're more likable than you. Do you think it might possibly be something about your attitude and not just your looks?

No probably not, fate is a cruel mistress, yada, yada...

I'm over it.

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Lo' there do I see My Father.
Lo' there do I see the line of My People, back to the beginning.
Lo' they do call to me, they bid me take my place among them.
in the Halls of Valhalla, where the brave may live forever.

And you wonder why people treat you the way they do. You treat yourself like shit, so why would anyone else treat you any better?

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I'd rather go out swinging than strike out looking.
A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste.
What I say when I see her is what I'll say.

Then Im sorry but you know absolutely nothing. Again Pity wont get me anywhere, people have treated me like shit all through my life..is that my fault? No, Im just the unlucky person who has been born and had to live around these sort of people, you cant decide where you come from.

Rye lee, he could hide it from people if he's a 'manic depressant'.
One minute you're happy, and the next you feel like shit.

So you're cool when you're out with your mates and you're down when you're alone?
So try to spend most of your time around people. Go out open sets and meet new people, dont go out with the intention to pick up girls, just go out to make new friends, decent ones. Then things will happen, you meet the right girls when you least expect it.

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To effectively communicate, we must realise that we are all different in the way we percieve the world and use this understanding as a guide to our communication with others.

Res u are hearing what you want to hear.

Everything you have been told in this thread is true, you could take it as constructive criticism and act on it to better yourself but NO.

All you have done is just get pissed with people for being honest with you and telling you the truth and retort that they know nothing.

Its your life and your choice, you already have all the answers you just need to act on them. Choose to act or not it wont affect the people here, these people have made the choice to really take control of their lives and live them instead of existing and fading away.

Kill yourself and no one will notice your gone. Your wasting your life waiting for everything to come to you, i can tell you it wont. If you want it go out and take it.

Your just insecure, weak and lazy and you want everyone to join you in your world, no one will because everyone here lives in a reality of their own making. If you want their help and want to become a man instead of a spoilt sulky child then come join them in their reality.

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"Nobody ever gets what they deserve out of life, they get what they believe they deserve."

Awesome! Now THAT'S what I'm talking about! I fucked with you, and you fought back. Now if you can channel that fire into every aspect of your life, and stop letting life fuck with you, then you're gonna snap out of your current funk and start living! Get yourself checked out by a therapist and see if you can't implement some of the great advice you've been given in this thread.

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Yes and he wouldn't "appear" to be depressed to the casual observer, but his attitude still wouldn't be a healthy one and would influence how people percieve him anyways. I've known a lot of people like this and sure, they don't seem like they're on the verge of suicide if you don't pay any attention, but they always end up pusing everyone around them away with the way that they act and over-compensating. You just get a feeling that something is off and being around them isn't fun.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye

Definately not weak or lazy, I can say it a million times because its so true that none of this is my own making, this is what has been given to me. I dont decide where I was born or my surroundings.

No you don't but your 25 now, where you were born or your surroundings are now your choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuoXb5qMLuQ

this guy should be an inspiration to everyone, he is one of my heroes he made the choice NOT TO BE A VICTIM. This guy gets more hot babes than I do and is a true master of his inner game.

I know if I was born with his problems I would have probably given up.

Look out for his talks. If you dont believe what we say about personal belief let this guy inspire you.

It wont happen overnight, a little change here a change there new clothes, more confident walk new hair cut but if you persist a little every day, one day you will stop yourself and wonder when you became so confident.

Start believing in yourself. if you truely want something badly enough your subconcious will make it happen for you but ONLY if you believe.

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"Nobody ever gets what they deserve out of life, they get what they believe they deserve."

Thing is I dont have long left to do this, as it is Im already sidetracked with where I should be in life, I dont have a year or so to waste on hoping that things will change, I need things to happen now..not tomorrow..next month or next year. Ive been through all this before, many false dawns and life always has a way of kicking me in the teeth.

Then go out and win the fucking lottery. Nothing is going to change today. Get that through your skull and let it register in your brain. Where do you live? If its that bad, get out and go find somewhere else. Go live in another city, or another part of the country that doesnt cost as much. Get a fresh start. Make new friends, if you are bad at that, then start reading shit on this forum because that what it is here for. If you choose to throw out everything everyone is telling you, then you are a fucking douchebag.

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I'd rather go out swinging than strike out looking.
A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste.
What I say when I see her is what I'll say.

How is this not weak and lazy?



P.S.This guy is not bipolar, and he's probably not suicidal judging from his reaction to Ice. If there was a mental disorder that would fit him, it might be Histrionic Personality Disorder.

Honestly though, I am inclined to believe this guy is a troll.

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Lo' there do I see My Father.
Lo' there do I see the line of My People, back to the beginning.
Lo' they do call to me, they bid me take my place among them.
in the Halls of Valhalla, where the brave may live forever.

Well you really know nothing then, everytime you post something you prove it more

listen man, suicide isn't the answer. Think of the people around you, your family, your friends, you have a lot of people who do care about you and would be hurt if you weren't around anymore. ANYTHING WORTHWHILE IS NEVER EASY!!! remember that. Suicide is easy, therefore not going to do anything for you. People talk behind your back, who gives a fuck, people lie to you, who gives a fuck, get friends who actually care about you. Just because things aren't going the way they should right now, doesn't mean that they won't be later on in life. Don't take the easy way out, when things get tough, get tough back. Its a fight worth fighting. You only live once, you're on this earth for a reason...FIND IT! Listen, I think you really need to get help. There are psychologists who you can talk to, they can help you better than we can. If you don't at least try to turn your life around, i'm sorry but i have no sympathy for you. Hell look at Eminem, he had it way worse than you probably do. He grew up in Detroit, he didn't go to college, he worked at a steel mill and lived in a trailor with his mom. Now that's what i call bad surroundings, yet he worked to get out of there as should you. He was around drugs, gangs, fights and killers. He had it tough. When life threw him down, he got back up and kept going. He probably would've committed suicide too if it weren't for hip hop. He found sumthing that he was passionate about and good at and it took him somewhere in life. My point is you gotta keep fighting, things aren't always gonna go the way you want them to, but you got to fight to make sure that they do. Great things never happen overnight, it's not like you can rub a magic lamp and have a genie come out and wish everything better, because that would be too easy, and life is not easy. Remember ANYTHING WORTHWHILE IS NEVER EASY! Move away, start a new life where nobody knows you so you can create a better you.

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If you can't attract a woman you are, by definition sterile" ~Mystery

Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude."
Zig Ziglar

To win you have to risk loss.
Jean-Claude Killy