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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:10 pm 
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Haha it doesn't sound like any of you guys are getting laid with all this hostility! What the fuck? lol

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:12 pm 
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SMFH. What is with the online dating hate in the PUA community? Early-mid 30s is a great time to do online dating. How old are you that you even have a fucking clue?
Lol Yeah, if you're a fucking loser. Obviously it's working for OP. Quit being a fucking pussy and go out and actually game women face to face. That is the only real way that you will begin to see results. I don't know with type of woman would find a man in his 30's anywhere near attractive if he's going online posting petty ass posts and statuses about his "personality". The only assumptions that they are going to get is that the guy is a fucking loser.[/quote]

And you know this how? Because you're some 20 year old who thinks he has a clue about anything? Men in their 30s are probably the most desirable of all men. You don't know this because you are clueless. Plenty of women salivate over men in their 30s online. You know why? Because men who are in their 30s have much less probability of being total fucking idiots like you are.[/quote]

Bahahaha Okay bro, I guarantee that same 20 year old would pull dozens more women then the 30 year old EVER would doing online "dating". Good luck pulling any quality pussy there bro.[/quote]

Ha. Probably 20 years old was even too high a guess. Keep thinking you have a clue about women. Lol 20 year old get more than a 30 year old. HA. HA. HA. Yea, some girl is gonna go out with a guy who needs a fake ID to get into O'flatterys shitty irish pub. Yep, that's what women want.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:58 pm 
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thank you all for your comments.

i already do go out to bars and clubs at weekends and i always end up talking to someone i know or somebody new. i usually go out on my own at least once a week and i prefer sunday nights when you can hear your own voice and most people are not drunk.

i am better for knowing. do you think once a week is enough exposure in the social circles??


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:13 pm 
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FACT:

Less desirable women go on sites such as POF to seek validation. I'm not saying they aren't looking for relationships BUT the fact is they get FAR more attention opine than they otherwise would in their day-to-day. For every 1000 selifies they take, they use the one at the perfect angle where most of the time they look completely diff in person.

Think about it for a sec. If you're a desirable woman why would you use POF unless for entertainment sake in itself. You'd walk out your front door and have guys throwing themselves at your feet. Most of the ones you see on POF are bottom of the barrel and go on there to be pedestalized by either creepers or wallflower type guys who have such massive AA they relegate themselves to approaches online, which are far easier on the ego ("Oh she didn't respond cause my message 4th message to her likely got lost in a sea of msgs from other guys").

Come on, grow a pair, man-up get out there and CHOOSE a woman of YOUR liking. Life's a fucking buffet of beautiful women if you make it so. POF is just another excuse to stay in your comfort zone. "I made no approaches while going out tonight, no worries I'll just go home and sit on POF" ...I think the No-Fap thing should apply to POF as well - if you abstain from using POF for a week or two, I bet you'll be far more aggressive approaching women offline knowing you don't have that 'crutch' which in your case doesnt seem to be helping anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:58 pm 
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thank you all for your comments.

i already do go out to bars and clubs at weekends and i always end up talking to someone i know or somebody new. i usually go out on my own at least once a week and i prefer sunday nights when you can hear your own voice and most people are not drunk.

i am better for knowing. do you think once a week is enough exposure in the social circles??
Be the guy who makes things happen wherever he is. You're walking your dog, you're at the grocery store, mall, library, class, gym, wherever it doesn't matter (well it does demographic-wise if you want a particular 'type' of girl) - OPEN OPEN OPEN, at least make eye contact, smile etc.. ample opportunities to practice but more importantly to make things happen.

It's like a muscle, being social that is - the more you practice the easier it becomes, the less you use it the more it'll atrophy. SO use it as much as you can, engage in all the microbehaviors you'd normally avoid to help build momentum.

As per places you hangout and the frequency...figure out what type of women you're looking for and hang out in those places where there's a higher probability of running into them.

As for the guy dissing the OP for his appearance, that sounds more like a projection than anything else. Very easy for a guy to go from dud to handsome by a bit of working out (can work wonders), and looking at perusing fashion sites online to find a fashion that fits the person you are/want to become (which is congruent with who you are).

Only person limiting YOU is YOU. Keep that in mind. Are you a creator of opportunities or the guy who's going to be forever trapped in his like a prison always wondering "what if" as he lives on the sidelines of life? Figure out which one you want to be and then strategize how you're going to make it happen - the more concrete and detailed the strategy the better, but experience trumps all.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:25 pm 
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Finally home so can give more advice.

First off, from your profile it says you want a Relationship. If this is the case, and you're looking for a serious rs, ditch the pics. Your place looks cluttered and not attractive, and your face is way too serious = creepy. Matched with the hairstyle I won't see you getting much replies from that. Change the hairstyle too. Get a friend or someone to take some pics with a new haircut somewhere nice. With a smile/smirk. Not saying that money is a big deal, but if your'e 35 and looking for (I'm assuming) 27-35 yr olds for a relationship you want to look like you have your life together. From your pics you look broke. Let's put it this way, if you had hit me up to sarge or something...I'd be reluctant if I saw those pics. They give a bad impression off the bat.

For the profile stuff, change it. It's a long story, and while it's well written, gives me the creepy vibe too because who writes like that on their dating profile? Plus it doesn't say anything good about you, just that you have a friend who described the details of him getting laid.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:20 am 
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Your username is NICEGUY. Delete this account and make another...

Anyway, the thing is, most of your messages will be replied to before the girl even looks at your profile. Though I agree the profile needs a total rebuild, that isn't the core problem. Zero dates could be blamed on the profile. But zero replies? There is something wrong with the message.

I second the request of an example message. Especially the message title. I'm wondering how many girls are even opening this message.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:16 am 
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I dont think he looks so bad, just his style is off. He looks better with the 5 oclock shadow. Tighter, more linear clothes, a haircut designed to straighten out the hair and I could see him being a smooth looking james bond type.

Oh and arguing on the internet is like the special Olympics: even if you win you're still retarded.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:58 am 
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ok. heres a few examples of the opening messages i have sent

1. her profile says shes an accountant and shes a tall leggy blonde (and i do like blondes) so i message "will you get rid of all my profit."

2. the sporty girl who likes going to the gym and running. so i message "have you been for a run this week? i am doing 12 miles later today."

3. the party girl who likes going to bars and clubs. so i message "hi dude, buy me a drink will you x"

4. or if she has not written much in her profile i would just message "hi dude, hows it going? x"

i also dont like the user name niceguyeddie however i was just following the advice of the friend who says its more girl friendly. he also wrote my profile and has been in relationships with several stunning models.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 10:42 am 
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I agree with what has been said so far:

Your pics don't show any value at all. Change them, and get a new haircut. Upload pics where you are with other people.

Your user name looks desperate.

Your story is way too long, even I didn't bother to read it through, then I guess no women will ever read all that. Keep it short and simple.

Those messages are not particularly bad, though a bit more wit and humour would most probably help a lot. What's the title of these messages? The title is the most important part of the message because if it sucks, then women won't even bother to open them, also, they see that some dude called "niceguy" sent them, and that's another reason why they won't even read your messages.

I also agree with Eddie... wtf, guys? You really need to enter a cock-fight here, to prove your superior knowledge about women? Yeah, I too think that "men in their 30s aren't attractive" is total bullcrap, but why call each other names, and shit?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:58 pm 
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As for the guy dissing the OP for his appearance, that sounds more like a projection than anything else.
Appreciate your assumption, but not at all a projection. If you read my post I was very helpful. As opposed to the guys telling him to keep smashing his head against a brick wall till it breaks..

I told him I'm not good looking either but I do very well with online game and made some suggestions that work for me that can work for him. You even mentioned yourself that he can go from a dud to stud if he was invest into his fashion, get into shape etc etc , which pretty much means you're indirectly telling him to get better looking.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:20 pm 
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Getting responses online, getting dates and converting those to sex or relationships require an understanding of women, flirting, dominance etc. From your messages and profile I feel like you have some work to do. Sure..someone can give you tips to make your profile better but are they going to write your messages for you? If they do that, are they gonna text the girls for you? And even if they do that are they going to go on the date in your place? My point is, you seem like you have some work to do with respect to "gaming." Take a method and practice in person and see what works. Get into the field and that's nothing against online game, just that I think you should learn some basics before trying online.


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