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It raises attraction but not sexual tension... You just put her on her toes so it increases her interest, doesn't necessarily make her want to fuck you.. Wit without kino will not get you laid, but on the other hand, kino without wit will..

There are guys that are not witty or intelligent, that bang more women than the most witty guy you know...

Witty banter is never ending, there is an higher approach to all of this and that is to be above it, if you want to play into a womens little games, you go ahead... I'll be having sex in the nearest nook while your telling jokes.
Can you elaborate as to how "it raises attraction, but not sexual tension"? A lot of PUAs bandy this about, but there's never any coherent explanation as to how humour does one, but not the other.

I agree with you on the kino, but that's a whole other conversation as this conversation, to my understanding, is strictly concerning verbal interaction (e.g. texting, sexting, online chat, etc.).

Witty banter can be never-ending, and this is where you would certainly kino, again, assuming you're face-to-face with the girl which is a completely different matter to the one we're discussing.

You'd have to be a complete moron, or just socially aloof to keep the witty retort back-n-forth to infinitude. I should hope if one is smart enough to engage in witty retort, that he'd also have the foresight to know when to take the communication in a different direction.

I'd never rely on verbal interaction alone if I have the girl in my presence.
Humor is used to defuse awkward moments(tension)

I'm sure you are attracted to the funny guy who always has a ton of jokes, however, im sure you don't want to sleep with the guy. Attraction doesn't have a gender..

Attraction and sexual tension are not the same thing at all, and a basic definition could define that.

Nobody here was suggested that. I simply asked for some clarity on how humor raises attraction, but not sexual attention - other than something than regurgitating non-explanations taken from PUA handbooks.

Now, attraction can be shifted into sexual tension when things like kino are involved, meaning the attraction didn't have to be there in the first place.

This is a contradiction; you say on the one hand seduction process can be expedited through attraction, and then saying attraction need not be involved at all. *head scratch*

Women sleep with men they aren't attracted to all the time..

Seduction does occur, but at some level she is in fact attracted to him, although she may not admit to it as by doing so she'd be lowering her own perceived value ("OMG me be attracted to him?!? I CAN DO SO MUCH BETTER!"). Ya, she slept with him, but rest assured she was also attracted to him. Again, PUA 'authors' love telling stories of how the FROG got the princess, just to fill unattractive guys with a false sense of confidence. Looks matter, they aren't the whole story but if a woman is not attracted to you, even in the slightest, you'll have a better chance penetrating a rock with your dick than seducing her.


I was talking to this shallow model at a fashion show on Saturday and she was telling me about her boyfriend, her exact words, " I don't like him, im no even attracted to him, he's just good in bed"


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God I love discussions like this! So many good points! So much food for thought! :)

But, does it beg the question that pickup has become over-complicated?

I guess whatever fits in with your method. If you're a flirt, then flirt. If you go in under the radar, then go in under the radar. There probably isn't one solidified way to do everything.

Wit works for me, because I'm naturally funny, cocky and flirty. But some people aren't, just the facts. There's a time and place to be serious, admittedly, which comes in the later stages, after her interest, investment and attraction is at it's maximum, whilst sprinkling in kino and sexualized comments to amp up the sexual attraction and comfort with being touched.


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God I love discussions like this! So many good points! So much food for thought! :)

But, does it beg the question that pickup has become over-complicated?

I guess whatever fits in with your method. If you're a flirt, then flirt. If you go in under the radar, then go in under the radar. There probably isn't one solidified way to do everything.

Wit works for me, because I'm naturally funny, cocky and flirty. But some people aren't, just the facts. There's a time and place to be serious, admittedly, which comes in the later stages, after her interest, investment and attraction is at it's maximum, whilst sprinkling in kino and sexualized comments to amp up the sexual attraction and comfort with being touched.
In short, yes.

And the PUAs who sell their product know this quite well, and are no different from any of the so-called motivational gurus who peddle DVDs, books, and seminars all built upon offering the promise of something better. What they're effectively doing is creating an illusory correlation by suggesting their techniques (which by no accident require that a guy approaches MANY women) will assure success. What, in reality is happening is that the techniques in themselves hold little value, but rather the fact you're approaching more women makes all the difference. It's not rocket science. The more women you talk to, the more you'll inoculate yourself against feelings of rejection, coincidentally the more dates you'll have. Understand?


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Understood, champ.


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Well said mate, so are you insinuating that majority of the books PUAvideos boot camps, are just forms of fraud?

Just out of curiosity.

When you say there is little attraction, are you referring to looks? I think her attraction as fuze said, was he was good at bed that is it. She had no other attraction besides that. If you fuck a fat chick, and she is ugly, but she is great at bed, are you attracted to her looks or personality, or just the fact that she makes you cum like a 13 yr old boy?

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No disrespect to papichulo818 but he does give himself Rep points from an alternate profile.. So always think twice before listening to anything he has to say. He is however, very intelligent and has a big vocabulary but don't mistake that for someone that actually has personal experience with women.

Like I said before, there are plenty of dumb ass guys out there that get more pussy than the wittiest guy you know.

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No disrespect to papichulo818 but he does give himself Rep points from an alternate profile.. So always think twice before listening to anything he has to say. He is however, very intelligent and has a big vocabulary but don't mistake that for someone that actually has personal experience with women.

Like I said before, there are plenty of dumb ass guys out there that get more pussy than the wittiest guy you know.
I'm amused that you're still convinced that Detox and I are the same person. Reputation points are of no concern to me.


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Well said mate, so are you insinuating that majority of the books PUAvideos boot camps, are just forms of fraud?

Just out of curiosity.

When you say there is little attraction, are you referring to looks? I think her attraction as fuze said, was he was good at bed that is it. She had no other attraction besides that. If you fuck a fat chick, and she is ugly, but she is great at bed, are you attracted to her looks or personality, or just the fact that she makes you cum like a 13 yr old boy?
Here, I'll sum it up for you in one sentence what these PUA manuals do in under 100 pages - "Become your own man", in other words, become a confidant person; that's the secret to pickup. But the reality is there's no money in having a one sentence book. I swear at times I think some of the techniques, and play-by-play routines were made under the assumption that there are some guys out there who came from Mars and need every finite detail in order to function around women. They also operate under the assumption that women can be compartmentalized into particular categories when in reality human behavior is far too complex to predict; in short, no two women are any more alike than you and I (somehow men have the misogynist view that they're dissimilar from each other, yet most women are cut from the same cloth). I think the vast majority of the techniques offered create mental clutter making it more difficult for guys to not only approach, but also to maintain some semblance of meaningful interaction with a woman.

It may be a bit of an oversimplification, but I believe there's a tonne of truth to it.


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Well said mate, so are you insinuating that majority of the books PUAvideos boot camps, are just forms of fraud?

Just out of curiosity.

When you say there is little attraction, are you referring to looks? I think her attraction as fuze said, was he was good at bed that is it. She had no other attraction besides that. If you fuck a fat chick, and she is ugly, but she is great at bed, are you attracted to her looks or personality, or just the fact that she makes you cum like a 13 yr old boy?
You'll be hard-pressed to find a woman who slept with a guy she had absolutely 0 attraction toward. Ya, I've encountered countless women with their stories of that one guy they slept with who wasn't their type, but the reality is they were attracted to him on some level. Women will not ALLOW themselves to be seduced by a guy they aren't attracted to, plain and simple; they will decidedly shut him out in the blink of an eye. I'm also reminded of the saying that a woman will know whether she'll sleep with a guy or not within the first moments of meeting, and how that contradicts almost everything these gurus are saying about seduction - not saying it's necessarily true, just food for thought.


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I actually agree with you on the "judge within a minute" but what I was saying is attraction can be found on different levels. Although this sounds shallow, money does buy everything -including love. Because some woman are actually attracted by money, sure she will most probably cheat on this person. Not saying this is 100% true but generically speaking.

But I guess you are right about not selling a one line book. Some of the stuff is a bit rubbish like the 45 degree angle shit with MM, that sounds ridiculous.

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I'm amused that you're still convinced that Detox and I are the same person. Reputation points are of no concern to me.
Maybe because you are the same person?? You don't care about reputation points because you hang shit on everyone until you loose practically all of them then you bump your rep points back up with your other account(s)

We would have to brain damaged not to realize what you are upto.

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I have slept with plenty of beautiful women who tell me they werent initially attracted to me until they got to know me better or I'm not their usual type etc.

I disagree with your idea that a girl is either attracted to you or she isn't, the honus is on you to create attraction.

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Funny thing is, I never mentioned "Detox" in any of my post .

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Funny thing is, I never mentioned "Detox" in any of my post .
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You are soooo busted dude XD

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Funny thing is, I never mentioned "Detox" in any of my post .
The name was bandied about several times in a previous post, led by Circus Clown ring-leader Karen Black. Anyway, I couldn't really care any less if you think I'm repping myself, the thought is funny, however.


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