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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:12 pm 
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FUCK. In general it's just SO HARD not to DLV when you approach, because obviously you're seeking rapport and approval.
Not if you're doing it right (giving value instead of seeking approval).
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Is this exercise good to practice continually?
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I know sometimes if you expose yourself to too many rejections, you get diminishing returns and you start to just kill your confidence and feel degraded.
Who the hell told you that? Smack them.

If some pussy of an AFC guy has never been rejected, then he gets rejected once, his confidence will likely plummet. If he gets rejected twice, maybe it might get worse.

Then take a look at someone with a REAL number of rejections under his belt and look at how damn confident he is. He's confident because he has accumulated those rejections by trying again and again, inevitably leading him to finding out at least some things that work and things that don't.

What you're saying couldn't be further from the truth.
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Hopefully this is like learning to play guitar: the beginning sucks dick and for the longest time you're a clumsy fool who can barely play mary had a little lamb without slipping your fingers; but after you get passed the beginning stage, it gets to be fun as hell and cool to practice. In the meantime... this shit sucks man.
The way I see it, it's exactly like learning to play guitar. However, when I was a beginner at guitar I never really felt "this shit sucks." Sure, there have been times where I tried to learn songs that were far beyond my capabilities, which made me frustrated, but I was fine with saying "this song is hard!" instead of being hard on myself. It was pretty tough when my guitar teacher drilled me on learning all the scales and committing them to muscle memory, but it felt more like a good workout than dick-sucking suffering. Maybe you're taking the wrong mental approach to both pickup and guitar.
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_____How the hell did it get like this, where girls run the world and it's always the guy who has to worry about attracting the female. One wrong word, or even the shortest awkward moment and the girl MOVES onto the next guy who will approach her 10 minutes later. Even unhealthy fat ugly girls can just sit at a bar and get more people to approach her than an extremely handsome man. It's a rigged game. Shouldn't there be some equality here, where guys are worth enough and girls are lonely enough so that girls will approach in equal amounts and awkward moments won't bother them just like it doesn't bother guys if a girl makes something awkward, cuz they're lonely too? Girls have WAY TOO MUCH sexual power and that's cuz guys are so lonely they'll put up with anything and fuck almost anything. I feel like there needs to be a boycott of women for awhile in order to balance the lonely/value scales in this sexual game.
Quit whining

Things are more "equal" and fair than they seem. You'll learn more about this as you learn more about yourself and women. For now just keep an open mind about this and know that everyone has a hard journey to walk, not just you and not just men.

In the meantime you can try to imagine what it would be like to push something the size of a small sack of potatoes out of your genitalia. And you bleed out of there every month for seemingly no reason.

And then there are the societal standards that women are forced to subject themselves to... jeez don't even get me started. Just stop whining and fucking man up.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:37 am 
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It happens often that a girl smiles to me in the clubs, and i smile back but i don't know what to do next? Should i go to them and start talking?

Also last night, i was in a club, and a girl bended over with her ass sticked to me, and her friends made a photo of her in that position. How should i have reacted to that situation?


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28 september morning I woke up and thought that I should go do the Newbie mission...but it wasn't so easy I found so many reasons why not to go.. weather was a bit rainy and I didn't feel ready to do this. At same day night I though that I have to go on field tomorrow and do the Newbie mission. On next day I knew that there is no excuses anymore, I atleast have to go on field and try to do it even if I fail it's better than being in secure environment (home). As there was no excuses, my mind played less tricks on me.. Ok now do the mission. Mission was intimitating. My mindset was something like this.. " people ain't gonna judge me " and I though what would I think about person If she/he says Hi to me. This was clear my thoughts wasn't bad at all. So I grabbed my balls and started to say Hi to women. That was so fun, really I ain't joking here, If I sayd Hi some of them turned around, some of them sayd very confusig Hi? to back, some of them were just quiet. I did around 20-30 hi's( I wouldn't call them approaches)
Result: I feel a bit more confident after this challange, but I think I'm not ready for direct approach yet. I think I will do this Newbie mission agein soon. If you have an ideas of cool challanges I would like to have them.

Overall that was a great challange thanky you Chief for that.
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I actually went and performed this mission today. Basically because during the day my Approach Anxiety is amplified considerably whereas in a club, while still there, I can deal with it because it seems "more normal" to pick up girls in a bar or club. My game is reasonable in a club and I have zero problems kiss-closing etc. During the day its a different matter, I'm terrible (not due to absence of alcohol, since I don't drink when I go out.)

At 3pm I was going for coffee with a girl I met last friday, I decided to go up early and try the newbie mission in order to get in a confident and talkative state that would prove useful. I walked around a while and I'd see a girl and think in my head "JUST SAY HI!!! DO IT!!!" But I just didn't. It sounds stupid considering I can approach in clubs, but I just couldn't seem to do it.

I was getting frustrated with myself, so I went and sat down on a park bench for a while to pull myself together and grow some balls. A girl sat down next to me and I said to her, "Hey, it's my mother's birthday tomorrow and I want to get her some nice jewellery, know any good places around here?" It was the truth, I was meant to be getting some jewellery for my beloved Mother that day. We got talking a little bit about local jeweller's and my mother's style and stuff (talking about your Mum doesn't get girls hot, in case you were wondering) and eventually my situational opener fizzled out and I thanked her for her help and went on my way.

But after this I managed to hold eye contact, smile and say "Hi" to virtually every attractive girl I saw and this even led to a lengthy and pleasant exchange with a girl who was doing a painting in the park, that for some STUPID reason I didn't number close. But hey, we're all starting somewhere.

So my tip is this; just talk to a girl about anything, ask her the time or whatever just to get warmed-up. Make it something you genuinely need to know so you don't sweat it too much, you're just making an inquiry.


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 Post subject: Newbie Mission: DAY 1
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Hey guys! So I went out today to try the whole noob mission, to really see if it was something that I could pull off. Normally, I'm pretty good with social interaction, but MAN was this hard! I was surprised and a half! I could barely do it. I managed to say Hi to a couple of girls, but I ended up getting slightly too shy and simply gave them a nod and a friendly smile. Despite the anxiety I felt, I couldn't help but get this crazy rush when the girl would actually smile BACK! Even after having fallen a bit short of the overall goal here, I managed to get more female attention than I have in the past couple months! This exercise is great to say the least, and I'm definitely gonna get out there some more here soon to give it another go. I have a question though, for anyone else trying; More often than not, the girl would look slightly away, as if she did NOT want to make eye contact or acknowledge me. At this point, do I still say Hi in her general direction and hope for the best? Cheers, Brothers!


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Ive done this before, in my eyes it eliminates all of your nervousness and anxiety by saying hello to over 300 people, it becomes just another task


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- refer - sephy and sensualorsteamy ...

I totally agreed... it starts with a challenge, then you stumble... becomes a event, then it turns into a daily task.... finally it becomes a habit and then ultimately you become that "habit"!

You become part of it and it becomes part of you (your personality).

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Im a week into my first customer service job & being a slightly introverted guy Im feeling much more confident after beeing forced out of my comfort zone talking to people.
Now the newbie mission this weekend will be a piece of cake for me, even looking forward to it!


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I just read the newbie mission. I realize that I tried this mission twice already, before reading about it. I didn't totally fail, but it really took me a whole day to say "Hi" to 1 woman. Before I said "Hi" to her, I made strong eye contact with her. In fact, I saw her face tensing up a lot when I did so. Maybe she was nervous or scared to death, lol. Anyway, when I said "Hi" she didn't look back or said anything back. But the important thing was that I didn't care about her reaction. The next day, I went for daygame again and tried the newbie mission again. Again it took me the whole day to say 1 "Hi". This timeI caught the girl by surprise. She surprisingly looked at me with her eyes sidewise and she got a big smile on her face.

A question though, this mission is good as a daygame mission. Great for AA because you can say "Hi" and get the hell out of there xD. But what kind of similar newbie mission could you do for nightgame ?


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Well, I went out to a mall yesterday to do some clothes shopping, and while I was there I told myself I'd try the newbie mission. I didn't totally fail, but I wouldn't call it a success either.

When I first entered the mall, a HB7 walked by me. I waited too long, and I squeaked out a shaky "hi" when she was almost passing by me. I highly doubt she even heard me, as I got no reaction at all.

The rest of the day I mainly concentrated on shopping and I sort of forgot about the mission. At the end of the day, I saw a girl looking at a clearance table of books. I walked by and came back to the area maybe 5 minutes later and she was still there looking. I walked by, smiled and said "so, have you found any good books here yet?" She seemed a bit surprised and gave me this cute little giggle.

I really need to work on this because I have pretty bad AA. I find I'm pretty good once the convo starts, but it's just the initial approach that I seem to have a lot of problems with. For me, it's the fear of rejection and caring too much what other people think. I will overcome this!


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Well I went on my first newbie mission today. There were slim pickings at the store I went to so once I got over my anxiety I was only able to say hello to a few people. Then I went to a local clothing store. I picked out 2 decent shirts and asked a female clerk which of teh shirts looked better. I think that helped me more than anything. This will now become a daily part of my life. It made me realize how little I smile.


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Well I've sort of tried this a few times. Not at the mall though.

I find on hiking trails people are MUCH MUCH MUCH (can I put about a hundred more MUCHs in there?) more friendly than they are just walking around the city or the mall. Eye contact and a smile is almost a given when people walk by from the opposite direction. I find that when eye contact is established it is WAY easier to say hi. I actually got an hb8 who made eye contact with me on a trail the other day. I gave her a big friendly smile and said 'hi'. I couldn't believe how giddy and flustered she got. Crazy.

Anyhow I can't shake how uncomfortable it is to say 'hi' to someone when eye contact isn't established first. For me it makes all the difference in that world when it comes to talking to a stranger. Where I live strong eye contact during the day can be rare at times in the city/mall/public transit etc.


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Wow, I have been doing this for a couple of years now. Not so much in supermarkets/malls but in the street. It is especially effective in clubs/bars, I basically say hello and smile at every attractive girl I encounter and eventually one of them will strike up a conversation with you.

10 minutes later I have my tongue down their throat... :wink:


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I tried it today. We have not that big malls like in US but shopping streets. So I walked the shopping street, in my little city, up and down several times and watched every women in the eyes, smiled and said "hi". Most of then did not respond. Many looked in my eyes too for a few seconds and then turned their look away. Some of them smiled back and some few said "hi" back. Ok but I come from a small city. Will try it tomorrow maybe in the next bigger city.


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@Chief.

I've done this a many of times to try and get myself more comfortable. My only issue is, I'm not new to this and my mind is set on what I want. When ever I'm out doing night game I am fine.

If I am just passing a stranger during the day I always make it a point to great them. It is almost like my body is resisting what my mind wants to do. I feel shaky almost. Any thoughts on that?

I want to progress into day game, but I need to get my vibe straight before I do. Hence why I am here. There is no negative thoughts and I do not put myself down at all. I own what I am.


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