yeah i use my own dhv stories too, i made them before i found the community anyway, some of them i have been using for years. got some great true ones actually. 1 of them on how i 1st met one of my ex gf's is particularly effective. told my target that one today actually! lol

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As a general rule I tend to stay away from gaming at work or relationships in general at work. Been stung once or twice with them, that's not to say it's cannot be done, it just takes a different approach.

I've done it before I got into the community and it's where I had my most success, the reason being is that because you work with them, you have to talk to them and it allows you to portray yourself over time, a massive plus in my opinion. Act like their friends, be friendly with them and escalate slowly, sometimes all it takes is to get a little closer to them emotionally and just come out and say that you like them and would love to get to know them outside of work, swap numbers and take them on a brilliant day out.

Also, it's important that you don't become obsessed with her and also have other options or appear to at least. One of the mistakes I made early, with having a near obsession with a girl I worked with that was clearly going nowhere and it was obvious to everyone else but me, now that I can reflect on that and laugh about how desparate I looked, completly different person now and so is she.

Ok, short version,

-Be Friendly with her and talk to her about experiences and your life
-Make sure you listen to her stories aswell and comment on related things and/or things you want to do (Holidays, studies, movies, anything)
-Escate regular Kino, I was amazed by how effective this was and it gets her used to your touch
-Make sure you take her out, outside of work on a fun day 2, I like Bowling for example, nice, easy and cheap aswell
-Don't complain abut work to her, it shows your negative side, aviod if possible
-Most importantly, have fun with it, if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen, worst case scenario, you have a new female friend and that's always a huge plus.



Good Luck!

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thanks dude. how would you avoid the friend zone? (the most frustrating place on the planet? would you do as blondguy says and just use kino and keep the flirting going?

another thing i forgot to mention is she told me that her boyfriend cheated on her earlier this year. im guessing she mentioned this for a reason although maybe she wants to see me as a guy pal who she can talk bout shit like that with -ljbf. for that reason i changed the subject and didnt engage in the conversation, showed disinterest. would you use boyfriend destroyer techniques?

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Yea, keep the kino and flirting up, as for the boyfriend thing listen to her, but don't let her take advantage of you like that, that's when you ressure her that most guys and especially you are not like him, he was a one off

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As SCB said-listen when she talks of bf.

But dont become her emotional sponge where you're being her counsellor.

That will only lead to LJBF(friend zone).

Then again,you dont want to be an insensitive-asshole an say,"Screw your boyfriend".

So it's a balancing act.

Thats why I say you should talk up the bf and her relationship by saying,"I wish it works out".

Yet you'd be escalating on her and KINO'ing at the same time.

Guys,contradiction drives women crazy!!!!

Tell her that her bf seems like a cool guy and you hope they work things out,while you're flirting with her & sending her IOI's.

The contradiction will drive her ass crazy!!

I learned that technique from Love System's violation theory online article.

So when KINO escalating on the girl;lets say the girl says,"we shouldnt be doing this".

You the guy should say,"you're right,this's bad,we dont even know eachother",yet you're still kissing her,rubbing her,tugging her playfully,etc.

The sheer contradiction will drive her crazy with you saying we should stop yet continuing!!!

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good call man. i guess its an advancement on the push pull theory cos your doing both things at once. good shout man!

think i might try some sneaky nlp to send some subliminal messages and embedded commands to get inside her head even more. lol. just need to make sure she doesnt realise what im doin. interesting cos i havnt used too much nlp so far in game but have used it a little in sales. but read a book on it and currently half way thru another.(since i found the communitty im almost constantly reading one book or another) lol. this is a good excercise in very indirect game for me and i will definitely learn from it and become better cause of it. a nice little experiment!

its all about learning new skills, routines, games etc until you have a weapon for every situation.

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no news tday guys as i couldnt get to work for snow. bollocks

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i agree with a previous statement dont game a girl you work with, i have in the past and it got messy and the worst part is if it does go messy you have to still be around her all the time, i think you have to ask yourself a few questions:
1) is it really fair to mess up this girls relationship with another guy?
2) do you really wanna mess up your own relationship?
3) are you just looking for sex or a relationship?

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1 yes
2 yes
3 not sure

lol

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then can i suggest something then break up with your girlfriend first before doing anything its not really fair to her

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lol

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i dont mean to be the voice of reason and to be honest i dont like being it but if youve been with her for quite a while and you dont rally feel all that much for her anymore then end it! the other thing as well is that you would have a clean slate on your conscience

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just read this and what can i say, interesting situation plus good insights/concepts as well. i'm subbed

crazyoney2k,

to an extent i agree with you. i believe the pua community was built on the principles to get the lady without hurting her. i especially find it admirable in other pua's when, during LMR's, the pua comes clean and tells her what he can and can't give.

however in the end it's his choice bro. leave it be. while in principle i'm against hurting a girl, in practice it's really hard to let go of two HB's.

cheers from manila

at the end of the day i am just saying its you choice do what you want to do however i think that actions have consequences

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morality to one side for the moment guys.............

she has ditched her bf. she dumped him on saturday and told me this afternoon after more flirting in the morning. i didnt really know what to say. just said it was a shame it didnt work out and they had seemed good together etc etc, i probably missed a trick here guys. if topic she comes up tommorow how do i go with it? surely this is no coincidence, they been together 2 years and only split once before?

also at end of the day she 'said see you tommorow darlin' as we said bye and gave me a sweet smile.

your thoughts for tommorow pls chaps...................

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