I do like doing pick-up alone. This isn't for doing pick-up specifically DJ_Z it has other benefits. For one, jealous mother fuckers in clubs like to start shit. If this hasn't happened to you then you don't go out. Having a bit of back-up is good. The dude doesn't have to be a pussy I actually would discourage getting a right hand man like that. His negativity, cowardice and pessimism could rub off on you.

But mainly it's about socializing and being in a leadership position. It will naturally be displayed in your behavior as well. When you talk you'll be accustomed to people actually listening and respecting your words. So you'll speak like that around other people.

There are a ton of benefits to forming a social circle. I hold the belief that many of the people who made comments in here simply don't have people looking up to and respecting them. So they demonize it through cognitive dissonance and backwards rationalization.

I could be wrong, and this is not a personal insult to you guys. It's simply pattern recognition.

So guy that this post is directed toward... Don't get caught up in their social proof bias thinking that just cause a bunch of them say something that it makes it true. Just look at both side of the argument and decide for yourself.

I'll summarize it. I gave you reasons why it's a great idea. Especially the parts about leading from the front backed up with an endorsement from a deca-millionaire with a wife and kids.

And they made jokes, and said it's stupid and don't try it. You decide.

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Nah dude, you are eit her going to trashy clubs or you are escalating situations to be ALPHA!!!

I have been bar hopping and going to parties for a decade and have yet to encounter an asshole I couldn't fend off with words...like an adult

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If you notice in these patterns that you recognize, the one thing that everybody (not some of the guys, not a majority...but everybody) is telling you that this is not a good idea. If it was just one person telling you that this was a bad idea then you can probably say maybe it's a pattern with him. If everybody is rejecting your idea then the problem in the pattern is the idea.

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That cold be true Jack. I haven't had problems with it so far though. I feel likes it's increased the quality of my life.

Ok Dj_Z so you know what I'm talking about. I always de-escalate the situation with words too I haven't actually gotten into a fight yet, though there were close times. Having friends around puts less pressure.

Like once I was outside a club alone smoking a cigarette (i've quit by the way) and some random guy I've never seen calls me ugly. I was like huh? Then he took that as a signal and ran up close to talk some shit. Then 5 of my friends came out and his tune changed dramatically. He was all of a sudden open to reason and trying to shake my hand and shit.

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This is what I live for.

Isn't this a benefit of just having friends more than being a boss or leader.

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Fair enough. The example doesn't actually support my case on being a boss.

Ok I'll at admit there is a bit of ego stroking involved in it, but it's not like you're using it as a crutch to feel confident. We all know confidence has to come from the inside and not be based on any external circumstances.

Ok then think of it like this. It's a fun way to apply your pick-up skills.

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Picture my quote by the season... "Limits don't exist if you don't give them reason."

This is what I live for.

Yeah...it was obvious that this is an ego driven idea and I'm glad that you finally admit to that instead of continuing with the claim that people were demonizing it. Explain how it would be fun to apply your pick-up skills. To me, the fun is between the girl and myself.

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You're someone who is already registered on the forum but not very popular ... so you decided to create a new profile called starboy (IMHO) ... nevermind, you are great "mental masturbator".

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'The social circle will fall apart without you'

Wow

Sorry OP but this is the kinda thread that is weird mental masturbation. If you're looking to start a gang or cult of weirdos then this is an option. Please just be normal. How has this worked for you?

You all should agree that people who haven't started social circles aren't qualified to comment on social circle management.

Which is a great point to end this thread on.

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Picture my quote by the season... "Limits don't exist if you don't give them reason."

This is what I live for.

You seem to have narcissistic tendencies. You only admit that you're wrong when it benefits you. You try to disqualify or engage in the reduction of other's credibility when challenged. You admit the need to have your ego stroked and have a weird need to be followed by others.

I asked you a simple question and you avoided it. Explain how it would be fun to apply your pick-up skills because you lead a social group. That's comparable to saying it would be fun to apply your basketball skills because you own an auto shop if you are refusing to give context to your statement. Don't pick up your ball and go home because you don't like to be questioned. You started the topics...have the intellectual honesty to answer the questions put in front of you. If it's really a good idea, you'll have no problem answering them.

This quote says it all when it comes to you and your theories"There is no real usefulness to this weird idea...so do it because it's fun. I'm not going to explain why it's fun, just believe me. Anyone who doesn't believe me shouldn't say anything." It's the same logic that sold the emperor his new cloak.

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Fine leg twisting Jack.

There is no need to have your ego stroked. It's nice to have it stroked. It feels good to be respected and admired by others. The only things I need in the world are food, water, and air. Everything else is just a nice addition.

What law is there against leading a crew and doing boss shit?

I'm no perfect goodie two shoes. And you guys aren't perfect little angels either. Believe that. In fact...People hate us. They hate even the idea that we as men control our realities and don't hand over our balls to women.

Anyway on to your point.

Leading a crew is the shit man. The applications aren't limited to broke useless mother fuckers.

I've got some big heavyweight mma fighting bouncers that look up to me. I like going to the clubs they work at.

I have some promoters that let me into places for free with vip bands and free drinks because I bring girls.

I'm working on adding a few photographers into the mix so that I can get access to all of the hottest scenes in the city before anyone else. Photographers get called before everyone else so that they can take pictures.

Another plan I have is to start targeting these rich dudes at the club who're always trying to buy attention from women. Then I'll have access to his money and standards of living by facilitating the girls. His role will be buying vip tables for me, and I want someone who owns one of those big mansions down the street so I can take girls there for after parties. He's happy, I'm happy is the way I see it. Win-Win.

Plus I could persuade the guy into funding business ideas. If I want.

The reason I was going to end the thread is simply because the people who are talking seem to me like they're in a defensive shell, and regardless of what I say it will be twisted into some sort of destructive behavioral pattern accusation. Which is laughably predictable, and in my opinion only them projecting their insecurities.

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This is what I live for.

Projection, with a touch of the Galileo gambit.

If a bunch of people are telling you that your thread makes no sense, or is outright dumb, it is worth considering that your post may actually make no sense, and is outright dumb. The nice thing about throwing out accusations of "everyone is just being defensive" is never having to consider your own fault.

This is why pickup is a hobby for me and not some lifestyle, too much risk of ending up an idiot like you who watched the first three seasons of House and thinks he can psychoanalyze everyone.

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This is crazy..

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I'm going to address this statement right here. Do you see your pattern of everyone else being at fault? Literally, everyone. You're the one who is taking a defensive stance. You're pattern is...This is a good idea for this reason...well, okay maybe that wasn't a good reason...but here's another reason it's still good. You lack conviction in your own ideas and statements and you are exposed when you are put through the test. You don't have to come in here pretending to be King Big Dick the authority, which is a social goal for you, because you are obviously not who you are trying to portray yourself to be.

You're the guy who's a pickup artist that is obsessed with the lifestyle...but doesn't know what a basic push/pull is.
You're the guy who has found the easiest way to get women...but you need to find a way to close more women faster.
You're the guy that gets into the VIP because you bring girls...but you need photographers to access the hottest scenes.

While your OPINIONS of our projecting insecurities, you have to realize that you are inconsistent at just about the end of every sentence that you make but then you want to point out our patterns. This used to belong to galist, but I'm giving it to you now.

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