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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:26 am 
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Do you guys really think this is real?


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I hope people realize the trolling but eh oh well

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I think the reason I didn't go yet is because subconsciously I dont think it will work. two years ago I went to the gym every day for 3 weeks and it made zero difference in my confidence.
The gym is a lifestyle change. It isn't something you do for 3 weeks and quit. You go to the gym because you want to improve your health / fitness and over time build a great body.


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Do you guys really think this is real?
Hard to believe I but no...

His post history just doesn't have the troll agenda, it is only now where it is seriously hurting his well-being that he wants to finally take action, (Still yet to make a healthy actual step of action)

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"3 weeks" lol

3 weeks isn't long enough to make a difference for anything. Can you learn a new language in 3 weeks? Can you perform a song on a new instrument in 3 weeks? Can you earn a degree in 3 weeks? Can you start a business and succeed with it in 3 weeks?

How do you succeed in any of those things? Habits. Motivation? No. Developing habits. I go to the gym almost every day not because I am motivated but because I just made it a habit.
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I dont think I can make her feel great. I dont think I have a lot to offer as a sexual partner.

I dont agree with your second paragraph. I have tried being myself (awkward) and that never leads to sex. I am pretty sure that you are already aware that women cant look at a comedian as a sex partner. will they laugh? yes. will they feel good? yes. will they have sex? no.

I dont know how to recognize my own value.
Then, like I said, figure that shit out. You're one of three things:
1. You're a valuable guy with a shitty self-image and you need to fix your shitty self-esteem.
2. You're pretty worthless, you have an accurate self-image, and you need to make yourself more valuable to society and shit.
3. You have some value that could stand to be raised and you have kinda bad self-esteem that could stand to be corrected.

In all likelihood it's probably Option 3.

Make yourself more valuable by improving yourself in every way you can possibly think. Hit the gym, advance your career, acquire more skills, get better at the skills you currently have, become among the best in your field, network like a madman, keep practicing talking to women and experiment with specific PUA techniques one at a time.

Journal your progress and pay close attention to every achievement you make every step of the way. This will realign your self-image to be more accurately reflective of the reality of your value.

This is all long-term shit. EVERYTHING is long-term shit. Seems like you have a pretty shitty mentality about long term improvement if you once went to the gym for just 3 weeks and gave up when you didn't see any progress after that. Fuck that shit. You have to do this shit for years. What shit? All this shit.

Life is a continuous series of Marshmallow Tests and you need to get your mind completely off of immediate gratification every step of the way. Don't let it tempt you. NEVER TAKE THE FIRST MARSHMALLOW.
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the problem is, I dont know what it is that I want.
Then fuck it. Make it a vague goal. To become the best version of yourself as you possibly can. Ubermench. Nietzsche. Obsessively chase this vague goal with infinite resolve.
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I think the reason I didn't go yet is because subconsciously I dont think it will work.
Fuck your excuses. Listen to Shia Leboeuf.

If you let yourself just make excuses and whine then you deserve to fail in everything you do. Don't be that guy.


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"3 weeks" lol

3 weeks isn't long enough to make a difference for anything. Can you learn a new language in 3 weeks? Can you perform a song on a new instrument in 3 weeks? Can you earn a degree in 3 weeks? Can you start a business and succeed with it in 3 weeks?

How do you succeed in any of those things? Habits. Motivation? No. Developing habits. I go to the gym almost every day not because I am motivated but because I just made it a habit.
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I dont think I can make her feel great. I dont think I have a lot to offer as a sexual partner.

I dont agree with your second paragraph. I have tried being myself (awkward) and that never leads to sex. I am pretty sure that you are already aware that women cant look at a comedian as a sex partner. will they laugh? yes. will they feel good? yes. will they have sex? no.

I dont know how to recognize my own value.
Then, like I said, figure that shit out. You're one of three things:
1. You're a valuable guy with a shitty self-image and you need to fix your shitty self-esteem.
2. You're pretty worthless, you have an accurate self-image, and you need to make yourself more valuable to society and shit.
3. You have some value that could stand to be raised and you have kinda bad self-esteem that could stand to be corrected.

In all likelihood it's probably Option 3.

Make yourself more valuable by improving yourself in every way you can possibly think. Hit the gym, advance your career, acquire more skills, get better at the skills you currently have, become among the best in your field, network like a madman, keep practicing talking to women and experiment with specific PUA techniques one at a time.

Journal your progress and pay close attention to every achievement you make every step of the way. This will realign your self-image to be more accurately reflective of the reality of your value.

This is all long-term shit. EVERYTHING is long-term shit. Seems like you have a pretty shitty mentality about long term improvement if you once went to the gym for just 3 weeks and gave up when you didn't see any progress after that. Fuck that shit. You have to do this shit for years. What shit? All this shit.

Life is a continuous series of Marshmallow Tests and you need to get your mind completely off of immediate gratification every step of the way. Don't let it tempt you. NEVER TAKE THE FIRST MARSHMALLOW.
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the problem is, I dont know what it is that I want.
Then fuck it. Make it a vague goal. To become the best version of yourself as you possibly can. Ubermench. Nietzsche. Obsessively chase this vague goal with infinite resolve.
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I think the reason I didn't go yet is because subconsciously I dont think it will work.
Fuck your excuses. Listen to Shia Leboeuf.

If you let yourself just make excuses and whine then you deserve to fail in everything you do. Don't be that guy.
Thanks. indeed, I have been told in real life my self-image is not an accurate reflection of reality.

you said I need to pay close attention to my achievements. the question is, will I even see my own achievements? I dont know. I probably dont see them.

but I also usually downplay my achievements by saying things like "it's not a big deal. any monkey could do this"....I have a fear of being conceited and failing because of that. imagine 2 soccer teams playing against each other. one scores a goal, and they say "We are ahead 1 to 0. we are done!!!" and they dont play good any more. at the end, they will lose 3 to 1 because they were conceited. that's why I always make a conscience effort to downplay my achievements so I dont end up falling behind. I have been doing this since forever. in school when I would get a 98% on a test, I would convince myself it's terrible and I am going to fail if I dont try harder. I would also say things like "so who cares if you got a 98%? you still suck in other aspects of life"

I see only the negative and not the positive. lets say I am in medical school and it's 4 years and I just finished year 3. instead of being happy about finishing year 3, I am upset because I have one more year to go. lets say I just finished year 4. instead of being happy, I am upset because now I have to do residency (I am not a medical student, I am just making up an example)

I also constantly live in regret, regret over trivial things. if I went to the store and bought 2 gums, I regret not buying 1 because the price might drop. if I buy 1 gum, I regret not buying 2 because the price might go up. if I can take bus line #8 or #10 to go to the same destination, as soon as I get on bus #8, I think i should have taken bus #10.

but I am also not sure what achievements include. if I never said hello to my neighbor and today I said hello, is that an achievement? or are you talking about big things?

I do have one achievement I am proud of. during the past month, I've had the opportunity to engage in self-depreciating humor probably 20 times and I didn't. I stopped my self-depreciating humor because of this forum.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:17 pm 
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Thanks. indeed, I have been told in real life my self-image is not an accurate reflection of reality.

The simple fact you're saying this is a paradox. It indicates that you know you have value yet you are in denial of it. This is about you holding yourself back, if in fact that's the case.

you said I need to pay close attention to my achievements. the question is, will I even see my own achievements? I dont know. I probably dont see them.

Not with that Non-life serving mindset you won't. You've got some dogmatic beliefs that are actually impeding you on your journey, and blocking you from 1) recognizing your needs, and 2) going about ways of having them met.

but I also usually downplay my achievements by saying things like "it's not a big deal. any monkey could do this"

Dogmatic belief 1: "I am worth-less..." ...unless somebody tells me I am of value, for example. I am wondering what the threshold for you to recognize a job well done is. Is it someone else's validation, is it a need for perfection? etc.

....I have a fear of being conceited and failing because of that.

You have a lot of built-up shame.

Golda Meir — 'Don't be so humble, you're not that great.'


imagine 2 soccer teams playing against each other. one scores a goal, and they say "We are ahead 1 to 0. we are done!!!" and they dont play good any more. at the end, they will lose 3 to 1 because they were conceited. that's why I always make a conscience effort to downplay my achievements so I dont end up falling behind. I have been doing this since forever. in school when I would get a 98% on a test, I would convince myself it's terrible and I am going to fail if I dont try harder. I would also say things like "so who cares if you got a 98%? you still suck in other aspects of life"

Looks more like a fear of success to me. Are you fearing succeeding at something and the potential anxiety that comes with owning your achievements? AND the new (and sometimes added) responsibilities that come along with success?

I see only the negative and not the positive. lets say I am in medical school and it's 4 years and I just finished year 3. instead of being happy about finishing year 3, I am upset because I have one more year to go. lets say I just finished year 4. instead of being happy, I am upset because now I have to do residency (I am not a medical student, I am just making up an example)

I also constantly live in regret, regret over trivial things. if I went to the store and bought 2 gums, I regret not buying 1 because the price might drop. if I buy 1 gum, I regret not buying 2 because the price might go up. if I can take bus line #8 or #10 to go to the same destination, as soon as I get on bus #8, I think i should have taken bus #10.

Some neurotic thinking. Do you suffer from an anxiety disorder?

but I am also not sure what achievements include. if I never said hello to my neighbor and today I said hello, is that an achievement? or are you talking about big things?

I do have one achievement I am proud of. during the past month, I've had the opportunity to engage in self-depreciating humor probably 20 times and I didn't. I stopped my self-depreciating humor because of this forum.
Looks to me that the overall theme is an extreme fear of uncertainty.

I prescribe you doing the opposite of what you'd normally do. Go the extra inch/mile, win that game, aim for that little extra. I am not convinced its perfectionism simply because you aren't aiming to 'over-achieve', but rather you have a pattern of holding yourself back.

I've also noticed this in your FRs on how you never went for the number of any of the girls you'd interacted with.

Your homework is to push yourself past this, and take note of the experience after adding it into your FR, journal or whatever.

Time to take off the self-imposed governor valve.


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Looks to me that the overall theme is an extreme fear of uncertainty.

I prescribe you doing the opposite of what you'd normally do. Go the extra inch/mile, win that game, aim for that little extra. I am not convinced its perfectionism simply because you aren't aiming to 'over-achieve', but rather you have a pattern of holding yourself back.

I've also noticed this in your FRs on how you never went for the number of any of the girls you'd interacted with.

Your homework is to push yourself past this, and take note of the experience after adding it into your FR, journal or whatever.

Time to take off the self-imposed governor valve.
you guys are really good at reading someone from an online forum, it's crazy. I dont know if I am doing a good job explaining my problem or if you guys are just really good. but everybody is getting me.

n2, you hit the nail right on the head. i hate uncertainty. hate it.

I will do the homework and report back.


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Looks to me that the overall theme is an extreme fear of uncertainty.

I prescribe you doing the opposite of what you'd normally do. Go the extra inch/mile, win that game, aim for that little extra. I am not convinced its perfectionism simply because you aren't aiming to 'over-achieve', but rather you have a pattern of holding yourself back.

I've also noticed this in your FRs on how you never went for the number of any of the girls you'd interacted with.

Your homework is to push yourself past this, and take note of the experience after adding it into your FR, journal or whatever.

Time to take off the self-imposed governor valve.




you guys are really good at reading someone from an online forum, it's crazy. I dont know if I am doing a good job explaining my problem or if you guys are just really good. but everybody is getting me.

n2, you hit the nail right on the head. i hate uncertainty. hate it.

I will do the homework and report back.
I'm paid to do this, you're getting the diluted version for free ;)


Uncertainty is part of life, its just for those who succeed its a dull hum in the background, they aren't immobilized with it and on an unconscious level recognize change as being the only constant in world of rust and dust.

You'd benefit from some form of guided meditation, search youtube maybe something by Jon Kabat-zinn, Eckhart Tolle etc


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You'd also benefit from watching the movie Fight Club like a million times.

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