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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:21 pm 
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Definitely the, "looks don't matter" information.

But again, I think a lot of this (and stuff like spam approaching, which I see no issue with, especially while you're learning - it's great for learning how to take rejection and get over fear of approach) is meant for newbies who have no idea what they're doing. An ugly guy who gets good at pickup will do better than one who isn't good. And for most men on the bell curve, the advice is more or less true - if you're average looking and you suck with girls, you will do phenomenally better.

With the white lies, I think you're supposed to sorta, meta "get it" as you get better. It's like how we teach kids stuff in school that isn't 100% accurate, because it's easier, and then we fill in the gaps/correct generalizations as they get older/more advanced.


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Anything related to "NLP". NLP is pseudoscience that has extraordinary claims that have no evidence at all to back them up.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:48 am 
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spam approaching...

anything gimmicky and not authentic.

looks don't matter

alpha this alpha that and amog
That would be my list as well.
I would also add "plowing"(usually coupled with spam approach).

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:59 am 
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I'd say there is a general approval seeking behavior inherent in pick up. It's a fine line between changing yourself in a positive direction, and changing yourself solely to impress chicks. The latter may work for a while, but it will cause you to plateau. You also will likely struggle developing a relationship.


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Looks don't matter is true if you don't have advanced Justin Wayne level game. Seriously, look at his videos and tell me looks matter...

Looks matter for basic PUAs who rely on yes girls, and guys just starting out in game. The advice that looks don't matter leads new guys into thinking that they can get any girl by just becoming confident and learning the basic shit that most guru's teach to get paid off chumps.

At this stage of knowledge I think that most "Gurus" are basically guys who specialize in one particular style of game. You take them out of their element of specialty and they are basically conceited AFCs.

Anyway, I feel the worst advice is that all women are the same.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:16 pm 
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Looks don't matter is true if you don't have advanced Justin Wayne level game. Seriously, look at his videos and tell me looks matter...
The only hot girls Justin Wayne(Marcus Nero) has ever fucked, was when he wasusing his job at MTV to set up a scam show(Subliminal) that did not exist. That's why he a bunch of good infield. Women feign interest in him, thinking this is part of this realty show.

Wayne has absoultely no "game" at all.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:44 pm 
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lol is funny how you all sit here and say "Negs" "Plowing" "Looks dont matter" are bad advice

I'm guessin most of you never put it to the test?

All of that advise works in the game, but in the wrong hands.... it can be bad.

You're brain filters it a certain way, but if you watch the experts do it, they get success

But then you go and do it, never having gone out in your life, you get slapped or something stupid happens then you run back to the forums sayin is bad advice.

I love it. hahahaha

Fellas, the pua community consists of "Good markerters" trying to sell you stuff, dont blame em, have to make a living somehow

and theres actually guys who teach great things and of course sell stuff as well because is the only way to support themselves

the truth is, we are going in a good direction as far as how the "Pua community" is growing

and i think companies like RSD helped pave the way for alot of this new shit that everyone is doing

and the OG = Original Gangster is mystery so props to him for all this, he deserves a Monument

That is my personal opinion

So point being

oh heck i forgot the point at this point

Oh yea.. Advice is filtered

In the wrong hands it can be bad, in the hands of an individual who uses his own fucking head when putting it to the test it can help your game.

Dont be social retards :)

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:55 pm 
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the absolute worst advice EVER is that you have to buy stuff/methods.

most are just scams written by afcs that have no clue whatsoever about what they say. there's very few legit ones.
but in reality all the information you need is already available for free online. only afc morontards buy pua stuff.
I've over 100 pua books and I paid zero. I never spent a single cent in pua stuff

yeah I know this post will be ranted or even deleted because they really just want to suck money out of afcs. but that's the harsh truth.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:48 pm 
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lol is funny how you all sit here and say "Negs" "Plowing" "Looks dont matter" are bad advice
That's because they are.
Plowing rarely leads to sex. It usually leads to having a new buddy. When a girl is sexually interested in you, you don't need to "plow". She's open, right from the start. When you have to "plow" and "lock her in set", it's because she's not physically attracted to you. So you "plow" for a few minutes, only to find she has a boyfriend, or gives you a flaky number. Maybe she even agrees to a date. But then she is resistant physical escalation and you never fuck her.

Look at your lay rate with girls you had to "plow" and girls who were into you, right from the start. A lot of guys have been doing this for a long time. And they tend to say the same thing as they get more experience. If you have to convince a girl to talk to you, it's usually going to go nowhere. You get a buddy at best. The girls you actually sleep with, were into you right from the start, and you had to do remarkably little to get them.

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What is the worst advice in the pickup community that is still being spread, in your opinion?

Quote an instance where it was spread.
Trying to get girls to buy you drinks/making them pay for dates/etc..

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- you need to wait 7 hours to have sex with a girl
- looks don't matter
- playing hard to get

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Looks don't matter is true if you don't have advanced Justin Wayne level game. Seriously, look at his videos and tell me looks matter...
Wayne has absoultely no "game" at all.
Ok, so in this example Wayne approaches a No/Maybe girl. The kind that will immediately blow out guys based on their looks and style of game.

As a black man myself I understand the implications of this video fully. I use a lot of stealth seduction primed openers. I get to see real authentic reactions on women's faces. Most people live in a sugar coated world dominated by social masks, but the reality of the situation is that all is fair in love and war. Racism is very much Alive and well, and I get to enjoy it on a daily basis while running gameon women who have never been with "my kind".

I don't get any disgusted or hate filled responses. It's fear. Women are afraid of me as a social conditioning. Guys want to prove they can beat me up/are better than me out of some polar opposite insecurity complex. All based on my lovely skin tone.

While on the insta-date with Wayne the girl admitted that she in fact did not like black people. She believed that we are aggressive, violent, dangerous individuals, and she is afraid of us on a core level. At no time was MTV mentioned. LOL

If you're basic, you can't understand advanced game by just watching unless it's explained to you. It's like an AFC watching a PUA. This goes as deep into that looks matter thing as you can possibly get.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mev2CgbQcxs[/youtube]

Another piece of bad advice, "What you say doesn't matter."

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Neg opener -- just walking up to a random hb10 and just being an ass? I don't understand how that works? But whoa don't get me wrong !! Don't fucking compliment them cause that's just as bad !!


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Looks don't matter is true if you don't have advanced Justin Wayne level game. Seriously, look at his videos and tell me looks matter...
Wayne has absoultely no "game" at all.
Ok, so in this example Wayne approaches a No/Maybe girl. The kind that will immediately blow out guys based on their looks and style of game.

As a black man myself I understand the implications of this video fully. I use a lot of stealth seduction primed openers. I get to see real authentic reactions on women's faces. Most people live in a sugar coated world dominated by social masks, but the reality of the situation is that all is fair in love and war. Racism is very much Alive and well, and I get to enjoy it on a daily basis while running gameon women who have never been with "my kind".

I don't get any disgusted or hate filled responses. It's fear. Women are afraid of me as a social conditioning. Guys want to prove they can beat me up/are better than me out of some polar opposite insecurity complex. All based on my lovely skin tone.

While on the insta-date with Wayne the girl admitted that she in fact did not like black people. She believed that we are aggressive, violent, dangerous individuals, and she is afraid of us on a core level. At no time was MTV mentioned. LOL

If you're basic, you can't understand advanced game by just watching unless it's explained to you. It's like an AFC watching a PUA. This goes as deep into that looks matter thing as you can possibly get.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mev2CgbQcxs[/youtube]

Another piece of bad advice, "What you say doesn't matter."
Huh? I think V is saying his footage is fake.


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Well that's his choice Neo. Watching that video, and with my understanding of women I can see the girl is not acting. She is resistant to every single one of his initial advances also. Which puts her out of the realm that most PUAs who aren't on her look level can enter.

Anyway, believe what you want to believe. I'm still going to advance my skills beyond being limited by my looks to yes girls.

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