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Dude did you never read 60yoc?
Yeap. Backwards and forwards, regretably. The whole "Risk Creepy" mantra is being taken WAY too literally. It may work with skanks, but definitely not on a woman with any sense of self worth.
Whoa turbo, I think that you may have a problem with escalation. May I ask what your issue is with it?
I've done what hunter is saying many a times and it worked but never with women as green as being referred to here, normally those girls aren't quite comfortable with their sexuality so I'd also advise against it in this case.
A big key to doing well with women is to react accordingly, to escalate properly.
There is something most guys don't realize all mentally healthy women want sex. ALL OF THEM and a woman isn't a "skank" for loving sex, if she doesn't love sex she is lying or not healthy mentally.
Don't refer to a woman who is comfortable with her sexuality as "skank", that is an unhealthy outlook on women. Plus it is just a horrible ideal to continue to spread around the community, women who love sex are simply humans in touch with their true feminine side, their sexuality.
Note: I will say this much with young girls things are a bit different. Their inexperience makes them go one way or the other.
When it comes to risk creepy it was very very literal, mostly because guys aren't bold enough to escalate and consider things like what he is saying as creepy. It's not creepy to escalate, it isn't creepy to grab her ass, it isn't creepy to want to fuck her, it isn't creepy to grab her chest, yes you do need self control and there is a time for each of those but it is natural to do all of these things.
You think women are this pure innocent creature that don't love sex? You think it makes them feel horrible? You think they don't want sex? You think they just do it for guys just because? Sex is natural, euphoric, fun. You never need to convince women to want sex, they already want it, in fact biologically they need it, but you do need them to want to have sex with you.
As far as getting to sex with her I agree with SexAddict911's post.
The key is to have her want sex with you, build sexual tension.
Remember women love being desired, they love when a guy can't keep his hands off of her. This doesn't mean needy, this means you are congruent with your escalation. This means you truly do want her, you truly are struggling to not capitalize on your sexuality. This is what sexaddict is referring to, it is arousing to her to be desired.
You need to learn to make the sexual tension unbearable, making her truly jones for it as sex addict was saying.
I would also look to capitalize on curiosity which is very powerful.... create curiosity for sex along with being aroused and your there.
Peace and Love,
Vic
You lost me at "turbo"; anyone using whack names they've read in PUA material, particularly to refer to males isn't worth being heard or read for that matter.