I will probably make a part two depending how this goes and if it helps others. There is some positives i think but if anyone could help me out on how they would of gone about these convos, or where i failed.

I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THERE ARE 3 DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS.

Converaation a : first two screen shots
Conversation b: next two screen shots
Conversation 3: are the last and 3rd different girl.

second girl

last girl. I may do part two and include more convos

Hey man,

First of all, did you make all the profile changes I suggested to you (via PMs)? Better luck now?

After matching, chatting is another story... You had kind of a half decent (but not at all sexual) back and forth with her right through to the end (was a bit of a tough read though). EDIT: I'm referring to the last girl... I think she was a lost cause - you asked for this chick's number twice... The attraction wasn't there. You may as well unmatch her and invest your time somewhere else...

These are old conversations. I know my routines are pretty similar so wanting to see if people can spot my mistakes for future conversations. I haven't been get matches of recently

Yes I'm aware of that. I told you how to fix your profile. Did you?

As for your convos - they're gamey... Really gamey. You're building no attraction before asking for a number.

Yea mate, i changed the pictures round and had the heading "probably not doing this right". Just of late haven't been getting any matches.

How would you suggest i go about the attraction part? I sometimes use fake stories like "you're my wife for the week or something along those lines" but i'm guessing that's not strong at building attraction

I'd suggest stop using routines and lines on Tinder...

Open them honestly. Say hello and that they've got a nice smile. Ask if they're interesting. How would you talk to a buddy?

Your goal is to create attraction inside of 10 messages if you can... You need to find out a little about the other person in those messages, and you need to give enough away about yourself that she knows you're not a sociopath (or worse). If you can get her to that point, you'll get a number.

If you can't... You can either spend some more time if you think it's progressing and you'll eventually nail the # close, or label her a lost cause who wants a chat buddy, and move onto the next match.

im pretty good on tinder, just open with a normal opener, if they reply, find out what they do, tell a joke or neg, then say what you do, i just use comfort for a few msg then say i dont tinder at work txt me and leave my number, then procede, ive been on more than 50 tinder dates in 6 months with mostly all at least 7s, few catfish, obviuosly didn't pull them lol. i do go sexual if they something with an innuendo

Didn't read the other responses. But your lines feel scripted and your lines are not linear. Your next message should get you to the next step.

You seem to stick around small talk for too long and then ask her on a date. Imagine if some guy came up to you in the street and started talking about the weather and then suddenly blurted 'so, would you like to buy some E-cigs?'

Small talk at 1st, THEN challenge and make her INVEST (interested)

For example, I would suggest to use a structure like this:

1) Break the ice 'Hey 'name', i know you're a tinder bot but could you get me in contact with the model in the picture? '

2) Some small talk back and forth, perhaps ask why she is on there, 'Are you looking for a husband, attention or are you a Catfish?'

3) Challenge her, 'You seem nice so far, but let me ask you this, your profile mentions you like to cook, if you were gonna impress me with a delicious meal, what would you cook for me? ;P' (This is qualification)

4) Reward her and close 'yummy!, I am impressed, you seem splendid, how about a drink sometime?'

5) If she is invested (she answers your qualifier healthily)
- If she answers poorly, go back to 1/2/3

6) Break the ice on SPAM again, 'Hey, here is my number, ******** send me a cheesy chat up line so I know it's you'

7) Make a plan, have fun with her, when you are sending each other instant messages back and forth. Then when on a high note, 'What does your week look like... when are you free for that drink? '

8 ) Break the ice every day or 2 till it comes to the arranged day.

9) Rinse and repeat


On dating website/app, I only send about 7 messages (most of them copy and pasted with some added wording (depending what she says) to make it seem natural)

I make them fall in love with me on SPAM and then when it comes to the date, all I have to do is not mess it up. i don't even need to game since I put so much comfort in the whatapp texts. Follow this post if you want to know more about comfort: post904635.html#p904635

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