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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:18 pm 
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It shames me a little to post this, but I'm posting it because I'd like feedback in the interest of not fucking up again.

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Her:
Good try too rest today from last night

Me:
Oh nah, I don't need to rest that much.

Her:
Ok

Me:
But I am enjoying the relaxation.

Her:
Good

Me:
What about you, how are you relaxing from last night?

Her:
my leg sore from play soccer with friend

Me:
Ouch. That's awful.

Her:
Yeah

Me:
Sports fan eh?

Me:
You a football fan?

Her:
yes

Me:
Team?

Her:
**Says team**

Me:
Is **** where you're from?

Her:
**Provides location she's from, which is the same as the team**

Me:
So why don't you have a cell phone?

Her:
**States the reason**
Busy now

4 hours later...she texts, and I'm out at the gym. I don't see this until I get back, and she assumes I've gone to bed--

Her:
Have gonna bed

The next day, she texts me early in the A.M. but I'm already at work so I don't see her good morning text. When I get home from work, I reply--

Me:
Hey
Just got in from work; headed to the gym. How was your day?

Her:
Good

I don't make it to the gym; I'm literally so tired that I lay on the couch and crash until 1 A.M. When I get in from work the next day--

Me:
At work?

Ninety minutes later--

Her:
K sorry

Me:
What are you doing for Paddy's Day?

Her:
Nothing sittin at home watch tv or girlfriend house

Me:
Come hang out with me. It might be the only free time I have this week

Her:
I don,t drive at all

Me:
I can get you

Thirty minutes later, I get tired of waiting for a response. This is part of the "experiment", because usually I wait for her response no matter how long it takes. I do that in the attempt of showing that I'm not pushy/needy about her being in my space. This time, I decided to take a more aggressive approach.

Me:
Are you down?

5 minutes later--

Her:
Figure some out

At this point, I decide to get experimental again. I instruct her with a time to call me while stating that otherwise, I'm going through with other options. Why?
  • To be a little more aggressive/direct
    To imply that my time is valuable
    To place a time constraint on her decision. I know that she can hang out if she really wants to, but she's on the fence about it.


Usually, I'd just tell a girl in this situation to get back to me when she's got something figured out.


Me:
Get back at me before 7--otherwise I'm following through with another plan
just letting you know

Ten minutes later--

Her:
Go out family
An friend

At first, I see this as subtle rejection...but then I think it might be a test of sorts. At this point, I have nothing to lose by being a little more experimental, so I decide to be a bit of a dick about things. Not because I want to, because under normal circumstances I'd just tell her to 'have fun.' This time, I attempt a bit of reverse psych--

Me:
Sounds kind of lame compared to the fun we could have on Paddy's Day...but if you want to hang with family no one can really fault you for that

And this is her response to me--

Her:
Bye

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So...thoughts?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:36 pm 
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You have a good attitude - wanting to get better and posting details. I commend you for that.

Now for the ugly part: that was cringe worthy. Here are what I see as being the main problems:

1) it's very very very boring. Your texts are flat, no personality. Not intriguing, etc.
2) you're texting for no reason. No purpose.
3) you shamed her for saying no to going out on St Patrick's Day.
4) she is not interested in you at all and you didn't pick up on that. See how many words she writes for every 10 of yours. Hint: it's like 1 ;)

You need to text a lot less, and be more exciting when you do. You also need to be more playful and not show that you get affected by getting a response you don't necessarily like.

Most importantly, you need to read between the lines when a girl is disinterested.

Good luck next time! :)


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:12 pm 
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Excellent feedback.

All this leads me to my next question...what is exciting and intruiging to people, especially when you first get to know them? How do you build rapport while staying interesting?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:22 pm 
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Excellent feedback.

All this leads me to my next question...what is exciting and intruiging to people, especially when you first get to know them? How do you build rapport while staying interesting?
The first thing you should focus on is building enough attraction BEFORE you get her number. In your example, it appears (to me) the attraction was simply never there to begin with. Not sure what the circumstances were around you getting her number...

You could have ejected on this one before you even started and achieved the same result... So the quality of the number matters.

Less texting - is what I mentioned also. Face to face, man... Text less and see her more. Get her out where you can escalate and touch... It's much easier to be a fun guy who's exciting and intriguing in person where you can buy her a beer and kino and read her reactions.

For discussion topics - listen actively and ask questions... not job interview style, but actually be interested in what she's saying...


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:10 pm 
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Yeah pretty much when a girl one word replies to you, you're in damage control. Very boring. You have to spice it up a bit. Tease her or what not.

Here are some girls in my current phone conversations. Text game is one of my strengths (I used to be so bad like yourself)

When I got her number from Tinder, I sent her my phone number and told me to send me a cheesy chat up line so I know it is her:
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Another girl, I told her that I hate packing bags, I was flying to NY
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Another girl:
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You really should text your current thoughts. Scrap the whole 'how are you today?' stuff.

Some examples of current things to do:

- Send a pic of your food and say 'jealous'?
- Send a selfie looking good in an outfit saying, 'going for a meal with family - yay or nay?'
- Send a voice recording on SPAM saying something stupid
- Venting your frustrations, example, 'stuck in the Starbucks queue for 30mins!' or ' I hate packing!'
- Send a short video on SPAM of some selfie karaoke like this: https://youtu.be/pluLJVqQfWY?t=28s

Some guys around here will say they are too busy and only ask girls out with one text. But from my personal experience that you can meet a lot more girls if you do find the time. Not only that, imagine going to date knowing she is very attracted to you as opposed to the traditional neutral. Just make sure it is efficient you set things up in your phone efficiently (bulk texting, copy and pastes)

I don't tend to text forever but my schedule has been busy and I don't have the time to meet any of these girls this week, so I will text like (really isn't hard) this to keep the plates spinning/the fires a light, so when it finally comes to the meet me, a lot of them have already decided in their brain that they like me. Then it is my job on the date to not fuck it up. I do this very well and rarely have to game on dates. Just be cool and lead.

I usually do this to the point where the girl thinks i'm so cool that they will be the ones that text/chase ME. A lot of the time I am only replying to girls. I am not messaging them at all and waste my time thinking 'is she busy, or is she not interested'.

This naturally happens when you become a busy guy in demand so it is hard to fake.

Make sure whatever you do it fits with in your character traits. I am quite a goofy guy so this stuff works great for me.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:00 pm 
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Listen to PEBBLE.

I've sent dozens (literally dozens) of users in other threads or who have PM'd me for advice to his thread on online game (in his signature).

Text game/online/Tinder is a strength of mine as well... And this guy knows his shit.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:22 pm 
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You pretty much got all the critique you needed.

Emphasize on texting with a purpose. Texts should be short, fun and light.

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Good advice given,

But on another note..

The girl wasn't cool man.. You aren't missing out on anything but not hanging with her. Trust me.

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