Alright, so im really stuck on what to do and can use some advice or any feedback from this post. So theres this new waitress in this coffee shop i work at and we get along great i make her laugh, i flirt with her she flirts back some times we do alot of kino all the time she's a hb 9 with a great personality. I dont just want to get in her pants though i want her to be my girlfriend but there's one problem. This is going to sound kind of weird but she told me she was dating this guy for 8 months but the thing was she hasn't met him yet he lives in new york and we are from Canada Ontario. They met on twitter but they SPAM all the time and she told me she talked to his mom on SPAM too and she likes him. I said fine but i still continue what i do i flirt with her i make her laugh theres always alot of kino when were together. She's always the one to text me first too and she calls me cutie alot. I dont know if im friendzoned or even if im not i dont know what to do? One day we were texting at night nd i was talkin about how she seem's like the type of girl to change a guy from a player to the opposite, later on i also told her her bf's lucky cuz if she was single the first thing id do is take you out on a date. I said that if she's single thats what im going to do and she said Deal but i dont think im going to become single. Now i dont know what that means or what i should do with this girl. Anyone have any advice?

- AfcOdie -

The who 'if you were single...' line is poison because you're putting the pressure on her to ask you out. it would be better to ask 'do you want to do something fun this weekend' over phone not text. that makes it sound less like a date and she will be more likely to say yes. when you are hanging out with her, work your material, as long as she is having fun, all should go well, you should have fun too. be a tease, then at the end of the night after you've had drinks, watch for IOIs when escalating, go slow.

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"Jaguar adults generally meet only to court and mate." -Wikipedia

never say that to a girl. you dropped the ball here. that's a very afc thing to say.

You were too needy and you have now entered the FRIEND ZONE

There is an UNLIKELY chance that you can turn things around with her, but it involves acting more alpha. The typical course includes:

1) Don't be readily available when calling or texting. You have your own life and don't need to be responding immediately each time she initiates.
2) Don't talk about her relationship or relationships in general. This is a big no no.
3) Initiate with her at most 1/month when you're in the mood to go out and do something - on your terms. Make it fun and playful but don't invest yourself so much into it that you're texting her 10 minutes after the activity telling her how much of a great time you had.
4) Let her see that you are your own man, without rubbing it in her face. Aka don't send her texts like: "Damn I was pimping in the club and got so many girls tonight" or anything of that equivalent. 5) Keep her guessing and don't share every single detail of your life with her - set boundaries.


I feel for you man, the friend zone is a place we've all been before. My best advice is to drop and find other girls to get off on the right foot with. It's really hard to get out of the friend zone - I personally haven't been able to do it mostly because I haven't bothered to try. Too much work and investment for such a high chance of failure.

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Preston's Game Log - Please critique

She's now breaking up with her bf, and we still talk i just came home from having a coffee with her, and i don't know if im friendzoned or not but i dont care guys im not inlove with the chick haha i kinda made it sound like that in the description i just think she has a down to earth personality but i dont know lool. thanks for pointing out my mistakes guys gotta learn some how right

thanks everyone, its now been time since ive posted on here, and im just reading through my old posts and realize how much mistakes i made with this one haha, she ended up breaking up with her bf and i know i still have a chance now since our conversations have escalated sexually, i was investing too much time on her, and telegraphing to much interest which made me look needy but everyone learns from their mistakes haha thanks everyone