I'm a Senior in high school,

Okay before I start my "dilemma" I wanna do a quick recap. Basically I've been talking to this girl for 3 weeks. Week1 I K-Closed, Week2 Make-Out, now it's Week3. (Ima throw this in there, she's my Prom date for Prom in a few weeks, she likes me, I'm going for a LTR.)

Okay she came over, we started Making-Out, I decide I need to start Kino-Escalating to some touching, so I make the kissing more intense to escalate right into it, but then she had to go, right before I walked her to the Bus Stop, she said:

"I think we should slow down, we're moving to fast"

There's an alleyway on the way there (shes kinda kinky) so I take her threw it and I go for 1 kiss, she starts making out with me, and a little bit after she said it again (plus she threw in a "I don't wanna mess this (the relationship) up). There's a second alleyway, same thing happens 1 kiss to Make-Out and then later on she said it again! at night through text: "seriously I think we should slow down, we're moving to fast". WTF

I don't think shes playing, I'm not sure how to deal with this. I think its ASD or maybe early symptoms of LMR?? I think I should move 1 step back and then 2 steps forward....

I don't know, if anyone has a better way of solving this or has any thoughts about it let me know.

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Fuck that! CAVEMAN that shit, or freeze out.

However, if you are going for the LTR, tell her "Whatever we do won't change the way I feel about you but if you insist I don't mind waiting till your ready." This will make you lose some power in the relationship but a LTR is a give and take.

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Okay heres my two cents..

To me this sounds like one giant "Shit test"
Seeing you want to date her longterm, i'm sure you've already made that your intentions clear, that's why she's shit testing you now. Even though she's obviously attracted to you, she's still searching for some kind of re-assurance or something like that. As I see it you have two options :
You can either go the "Make her jealous route" or you can simply play down her shit test

Making her jealous : Im not saying date or fuck other girls, (FUCK NO!!) just hang out more with female friends, be friendly to other HBs and so on. Though it'll waken feelings of jealousy in her, she'll realize that she's actualy the lucky one in this relationship, you could just as easily date somebody else. I gaurantee you she'll start to comply more.

Playing down her shit tests or crack her ASD : Whenever she starts showing signs of ASD or alil LMR.. just lay it down don't go into the needy "WTF" mode. I know that shit can fuck with a guy's head, thinking "SHIT I RAN POINT PERFECT GAME, WTF DID I SCREW UP?" best thing you can do is show that you're unreattactive to it and proceed like nothing happend. And never EVER apologize for being a man.
For example this is a response i gave to a girl ASD/LMR : she : (between kisses) "I really think we should slow down this, we're like speeding here"
You : "Well youre the one with your foot on the accelerator missy, im not wearing cherry chopstick" then i simply smiled and pulled away. we talked about what we both want she then gave me some story bout some dude she dated who bragged on facebook bout what he did to her and i ensured her that i dont kiss and tell. and soon enough she was in every position possible.

moral is even though a girl shows resistance, it doesnt mean she dont want to, it simply means she wants to be persuaded and not feel responsible for sleeping with you. weird but true.
anyway thats just me.

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Man it took me forever to figure out the answer to this question. Screwed up with a bunch of girls before I finally figured it out.

THE ANSWER: Do nothing! Say "Ok, you're right" and then next time you see her, start making out again.

What girls say has very little connection to what they actually feel. You can agree with her every time she says this, and you'll still end up fucking her on prom night.

Don't let it phase you. Keep on keeping on.

It sounds like she really likes you and wants reassurance that you want to be with her long term. Also she may be thinking in her "logical" side that she is appearing easy. She wants to do what society has taught her to do...don't have sex with the guy until you know he is going to be there or he "deserves it" unfortunately there is not much you can do about her flaking. Ignore it and act like it doesn't matter because evidently she doesn't mean it.
If she did you guys wouldn't be in the position.
You could try freezing her out..start hanging out with other females. This will snap her out of that way of how society is teaching her to think. If not who cares, find another girl to meet up with on prom night. Let her know after prom you have plans to meet up with other friends.

The more you keep trying and she gives you that "we are going to fast speech" the more she will step back, and begin to feel pressured and may make you look desperate. So take a step back. Find another girl meanwhile, treat her like a friend.

Look at the bright side... the older you get, the more direct you can get.

I'm in my mid-40's... the chicks I game appreciate the direct approach - no bullshit.

It all depends on the IOIs.

I've been at dinner where the lady asked what I wanted to do after dinner - and I replied "I want to do you, now".

She looked at me speechless, then smiled (hook pt). I got the check and we left.


She was thinking the exact6 same thing - she was just trying to 'be the good girl'... It's all ASD.

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She wants you, maybe too much and its scaring her. Show her you are safe, but if she waits too long she will lose you.

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What girls say has very little connection to what they actually feel. [quote]

THIS. The sooner you realize, the better.

Big example from my life that really opened my eyes: I was hooking up with one girl, who I had hook line and sinker for a while. She had to go out on a date with a guy one weekend because he was coming halfway across the country to visit. She spent a weekand a half telling me how she was so annoyed that she had to waste her time going to see him (they made the plans before I even met her she felt bad not actually going through with dinner) and that she'd rather just see me that night; literally we talked on the phone as she drove to meet the guy for dinner, all while she was telling me how she couldnt wait to see me later and be done with the dinner with the dinner and would come right over after, etc.

Fast forward to end of the night: she calls me on way home from his hotel room apoligizing for fucking him that night. So bam, on to the next one for me.

Moral of the story, girls will almost always say one thing, but do another. If she is resisting, it doesn't mean it's how she truly feels, and you can probably barrel through it.

Field Report:
So the status update is, it's been a week or a bit more since I first posted this. I wanted to wait a bit to see some progress, before reposting. Also I actually wanted to thank everyone who posted, I took into consideration what you all had to say and it literally helped, lol.

So, wow you guys were right. Women, they're freakin rocket science! You have to go slow, fast, stop, wait to talk about some subjects, and in this case disregard.

So I figured out what my problem was, my "Attraction to Comfort Scale" was off. I had enough attraction, but needed more comfort. So I started to reassure her like "I_Likem_All" said, lol I actually used some of "Lucky69"'s quote, and then like "Slip n Slide" said I took all the the blame "oh yeah, if shit happens its all me, no your not a slut". Basically disregarding what she said cause we took it a step further a few days later in our next Make-Out. Then...

Lol this is where it gets funny cause she said "it was too much", "and that we should try a week with out kissing" but she kept coming at me like "Dusty-Page" said, So you know what? I remembered one of the best and my favorite rules of the Game "You Are The Prize". So I just said ok, here's were it worked out in my favor since we go to different schools it just so happened that we were busy and couldn't see each other 5 of 7 days, and I've framed it so that she's the one who wants my kisses, and she'll get them as a reward at the end of the challenge.

Conclusion:
It's the last day of the "No Kissing Week Challenge" and we've been texting all week, so I start telling her what may go down when it's done, and I mentioned that afterwards some "frisking" (Kino-Escalating to some touching) might happen and she had no obligations, and she even started hinting that after the whole week she was all for it (just how I wanted).

Conclusion Conclusion:
Im going for it, like "Hoopz000" quoting "Slip n Slide" was saying, Im gonna Kino-Escalate to some touching (2nd Base), and she'll say some ASD shit later, and then I'll just continue on to the next step of the Game. ASD defeated.

Thanks for the help people.

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I haven't read the whole thread so someone may have mentioned something like this already, but here's an example of how I've made myself the prize with a girl I'm seeing at the moment (also looking to go into LTR)

Last week I had a first date with a girl, there and then set another one up for 2 days later. On the first one we had a heavy make-out session, the next day she's asking if I told my friends about her, I said "Yeah I told them I had to beat you off with a stick coz you wouldn't stop kissing me! A guy's gotta breath!" so she said she wouldn't go near me on the next date. Next date comes and she keeps getting close then saying "oh yeah I forgot we aren't supposed to today are we" she keeps coming in close to see if I'll fold, I don't. Later on (after about 3 hours) she can't stand it anymore and lunges in when I'm in mid-sentence lol. Heavy make-out again plus with her telling me to ditch my friends whom I'd made plans with and take her home with me, I tell her I made plans with them first, I'm not gonna ditch them for her (this drove her crazy, but in a sexual way, not angry way) so tomorrow is day 3 and we've pre-arranged that we're gonna F-Close.

The whole point of all this above is everything is being done on my terms unless she can't take it anymore. I wouldn't kiss her on the second date, in the end she couldn't resist any longer (her words btw) then for the F-close I've also made it clear that it will happen when I say it happens, ok maybe I was crazy for turning it down when it was offered but as I'm trying to set this up for an LTR I'm making a point early that I'm not gonna be the guy that ditches his friends for his GF, and what stronger way to make that point than refusing sex from her (how many guys will do that?)

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Sounds good! Good luck bro @Shadowx157 !! Let us know what happens!

Ahhh, I did it! I got to 2nd Base for my first time. Good Stuff, now off to the next step O.O, lol.

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