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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:55 pm 
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So I met this girl from online last thurs, we had a great first date (at least by my standards). We had a lot of fun, laughed alot, and ended up going to 3 different bars, the last one being the one she worked at, and the bartender on that night was her close friend.

Since she took me to the bar she worked at, where a good driend of hers was working, this tells me that she didn't think I was a total loser, since she was cool with me meeting her friend (who I actually kind of know from that bar anyway).

So the night ends, I walk her to her car and mention maybe getting together on the weekend, and she replies by telling me what time she gets out of work on sat.

So I text her the next day after work, telling her I had a fun time meeting her and would like to do it again. The next morning, I get a text back saying "thanks, I had a great time too", with a smiley face.

So I call her later on that day, after she got out of work, and didn't hear back. I'll admit I DID go AFC and leave a message telling her my plans for the afternoon and that I'd be around later on if she was free.

So I don't hear back that day, or the next. So monday night I sent her a text about getting together tuesday night, for an event at a local place we were talking about on our date. Didn't hear back.

So today makes a week since I had called her, and since I haven't had any further contact from her, I'm guessing she's not interested.

I'm kinda bummed, I was super excited to have met her, she's pretty much everything I look for, and super cute and really funny.

I actually met another girl last night, we had fun and are going out again tonight, so I'll get over not getting the other one.

However, she really IS a lot of fun, and I wouldn't mind being friends with her. I don't have many single friends, and I always like having single female friends, and lately I'm all out of those. Plus, she's a bartender at a few places in town, and is friends with a lot of bartenders, so considering how friggin expensive drinks are in this town, that's a connection I REALLY want to keep.

Plus I like to keep my foot in the door in case things change in the future. So, any advice on letting her know I'm cool with being friends without sounding like a loser?

I was going to send her a text saying something like 'Hey...I had alot of fun with you last week, and would like to see you again. If you're not into dating, no worries...I'm cool with just friends'. Or something to that effect.

Another one I thought of would be like a preemptive strike, saying something like 'Hey, I had alot of fun last week...I don't know if you're really my type, but I'd love to be just friends'.

I don't think that will work though, I think I've already conveyed my interest in her, so that will just make me look like an ass.

One other option is to just go to the bar she works at next week and talk to her then. And I actually will prob end up there anyway, there's a band playing there that I want to see.

Any advice?

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So I met this girl from online last thurs, we had a great first date (at least by my standards). We had a lot of fun, laughed alot, and ended up going to 3 different bars, the last one being the one she worked at, and the bartender on that night was her close friend.

Since she took me to the bar she worked at, where a good driend of hers was working, this tells me that she didn't think I was a total loser, since she was cool with me meeting her friend (who I actually kind of know from that bar anyway).

So the night ends, I walk her to her car and mention maybe getting together on the weekend, and she replies by telling me what time she gets out of work on sat.

So I text her the next day after work, telling her I had a fun time meeting her and would like to do it again. The next morning, I get a text back saying "thanks, I had a great time too", with a smiley face.

So I call her later on that day, after she got out of work, and didn't hear back. I'll admit I DID go AFC and leave a message telling her my plans for the afternoon and that I'd be around later on if she was free.

So I don't hear back that day, or the next. So monday night I sent her a text about getting together tuesday night, for an event at a local place we were talking about on our date. Didn't hear back.

So today makes a week since I had called her, and since I haven't had any further contact from her, I'm guessing she's not interested.

I'm kinda bummed, I was super excited to have met her, she's pretty much everything I look for, and super cute and really funny.

I actually met another girl last night, we had fun and are going out again tonight, so I'll get over not getting the other one.

However, she really IS a lot of fun, and I wouldn't mind being friends with her. I don't have many single friends, and I always like having single female friends, and lately I'm all out of those. Plus, she's a bartender at a few places in town, and is friends with a lot of bartenders, so considering how friggin expensive drinks are in this town, that's a connection I REALLY want to keep.

Plus I like to keep my foot in the door in case things change in the future. So, any advice on letting her know I'm cool with being friends without sounding like a loser?

I was going to send her a text saying something like 'Hey...I had alot of fun with you last week, and would like to see you again. If you're not into dating, no worries...I'm cool with just friends'. Or something to that effect.

Another one I thought of would be like a preemptive strike, saying something like 'Hey, I had alot of fun last week...I don't know if you're really my type, but I'd love to be just friends'.

I don't think that will work though, I think I've already conveyed my interest in her, so that will just make me look like an ass.

One other option is to just go to the bar she works at next week and talk to her then. And I actually will prob end up there anyway, there's a band playing there that I want to see.

Any advice?

Thanks!
Can you possibly take that new girl you met to the bar with the concert? That way you showing you have more than one option, and are not there only for her (the band), plus you can always talk to her for a bit when you get your girl a drink and yourself, but dont AFC on this other girl and just buy her a drink, if her cup and yours are empty offer to get her a refill and then go to the bar.

Don't send those texts, cause it comes off as "Hey I tried to get on another date with you, you blew me off, I am kinda mad but I like you a lot so I want to make sure were friends so I can still see you, will you let me be your friend, I need your permission to be your friend, kk bye"

Not trying to insult you, but you were smart and realized they were not good messages to send. I really think you should bring this other girl, have a good time, and try and get her jealous, she will 100% ask who this girl is when you get up and get a drink, why cause girls are like that and always want to out due another girl!

Best of luck!

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Nice! I like that. That's one option I didn't think of. Which shows I really need to change my mindset, haha.

Anyway, yeah totally possible to go there with new girl, and I think that's exactly what I'm going to do. The new girl is really cute too, so she probably WILL feel a bit of competition.

And no insult taken! I knew those probably weren't the best routes to take, so that's why I figured I'd try to get some input here.

I knew I was about to do something wrong, but didn't know what the best course of action was.

I really gotta get back into the game, I know just enough to know when I'm going to fuck up (most of the time), but not enough to know how to NOT fuck up, haha.

Thanks again!


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Just tell me how it goes, seems like you can have an interesting story here, just be ready to hook up with both girls in the same night, it could happen especially if that drink takes a long time to get made, or the bartender was just not making you it... what ever excuse you decide to tell that girl you bring :P

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I second what raphael said.

Also, I noticed you didn't mention as to whether or not you got physical with her. Physicality is KEY. It helps build comfort, trust, and attraction. In my personal opinion, I think that "kino" also shows a sense of entitlement as well. Don't be afraid to touch her. she may have lost a little attraction on the date. ( I'm not saying it's because you didn't get physical; it could be from many things...if that's even the case)

But all in all....I would just wait to hear from her. You did your part.

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Lol, I was about to give you some advice right after I read your first post, then I saw that Raphael had commented, read is opinion and my reaction was "raphael took the words out of my fingertips" lol
Basically, do not txt her again. Take someone to the bar she works at (preferably that new girl), go to the bar to get a drink with your girl and say hi to her. Make a comment like "youre so lucky... Your getting paid to have fun behind the bar and you get to see this xyz band, they are awesome". Like that you show her youre there for the band. Be cool, dont mention the fact that she didn't answer your txts or anything. Like you said, you want at least a friendship, act friendly, BE her friend. THIS IS REAL LIFE, ITS NOT FACEBOOK...you dont need to ask her to be her friend!
Also, something I like to do with the bartenders is this: " I usually get XYZ, but I feel like having something diffent. You know what, just get me whatever you usually drink." Or "just make something up ... But dont desapoint me" and smile. When she gives me the drink, look her in the eyes and tell her "if I dont like it im returning it" and smile! Take a small sip, make a nasty face, look at her and go "not bad" and smile. Then I say "dont forget how to make it, I might want another one"! Then I usually develop LATTER when I see she is not busy by "that was pretty good. Lets give it a name... Make it your initials!", "im gonna patent this drink and make money out of every one you serve, I let you take like 5% of the profit". They usually say something like "only 5%" I say "if it wasnt for me this drink wouldn't been born (I raise the glass, look at it and I say "drink.xyz, im your father"!). They always laugh. Well, thats one of my "routines" for bartenders. You dont have to go that far with her, specially if she knows you got someone waiting for you.
NOW A PERSONAL TIP: after the first date, dont make plans. Tell her something like "I had fun, you passed the "is she cool enough to roll with me" test : p... feel free to invite me for a drink one of these days!". I will not try to set another date, now its on her. After a couple days I might txt her randomly saying "I could soooo have a coffee right now ... Feel free to invite me, like that you know I wont refuse your invitation : p". Basically, I wont invite her but I will throw direct or indirect suggestions on what or when she should invite me.

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Basically, do not txt her again. Take someone to the bar she works at (preferably that new girl), go to the bar to get a drink with your girl and say hi to her. Make a comment like "youre so lucky... Your getting paid to have fun behind the bar and you get to see this xyz band, they are awesome". Like that you show her youre there for the band. Be cool, dont mention the fact that she didn't answer your txts or anything. Like you said, you want at least a friendship, act friendly, BE her friend. THIS IS REAL LIFE, ITS NOT FACEBOOK...you dont need to ask her to be her friend!
Also, something I like to do with the bartenders is this: " I usually get XYZ, but I feel like having something diffent. You know what, just get me whatever you usually drink." Or "just make something up ... But dont desapoint me" and smile. When she gives me the drink, look her in the eyes and tell her "if I dont like it im returning it" and smile! Take a small sip, make a nasty face, look at her and go "not bad" and smile. Then I say "dont forget how to make it, I might want another one"! Then I usually develop LATTER when I see she is not busy by "that was pretty good. Lets give it a name... Make it your initials!", "im gonna patent this drink and make money out of every one you serve, I let you take like 5% of the profit". They usually say something like "only 5%" I say "if it wasnt for me this drink wouldn't been born (I raise the glass, look at it and I say "drink.xyz, im your father"!). They always laugh. Well, thats one of my "routines" for bartenders. You dont have to go that far with her, specially if she knows you got someone waiting for you.
NOW A PERSONAL TIP: after the first date, dont make plans. Tell her something like "I had fun, you passed the "is she cool enough to roll with me" test : p... feel free to invite me for a drink one of these days!". I will not try to set another date, now its on her. After a couple days I might txt her randomly saying "I could soooo have a coffee right now ... Feel free to invite me, like that you know I wont refuse your invitation : p". Basically, I wont invite her but I will throw direct or indirect suggestions on what or when she should invite me.
I like that! Totally workable, and I like the next date tips as well. I'll definitely use those in the future.

On a side note, I have a routine that worked really well with a bartender, at least as far as getting a great drink (I had no interest in her otherwise). It's kind of specific, but if you have the right scenario it may work. It was a bar I frequent, and had gotten friendly with one of the bartenders and she would always hook me up - super strong drinks in a pint glass (my Jack and cokes only had about a half inch worth of coke in them). Well she quit, so one night I asked one of the other bartenders how she was doing, to establish that I was a regular and had been friendly with the one who left. Then I asked her if she was as good a bartender -she said of course! I said okay, here's the challenge, she used to make my drinks this way, can you match that? She says hell yeah, I say okay, I'll take two. I gave the other one to a friend of mine, he was like 'dude, how'd you get her to make this??"

Squarelife mentioned getting physical - I did to a certain extent. I'd touch her arm here or there when talking, like while emphasizing a point, or tap her on the arm and nudge her after making a joke.

I didn't go for a kiss, because I was getting over a cold and was still a little sick(and she knew this), so I didn't want to get her sick. I wasn't worried about that, I really did think we were hitting it off and I'd see her again. Oh well, you never can tell. Anyway, I even made a joke out of it while walking back to her car...I said something like "Don't worry, we get to skip the awkward first goodnight kiss tonight...I'm gonna be nice and keep my germs to myself".

I might have to find another girl to bring to the bar next week though, the new one I went out with is going to be out of town that night.

But actually my date last night could not have gone better. (well other than a F close or BJ, haha). Our first date I did a little arm touching, but no k close. I usually don't on the first date, unless I feel that the moment is there. Actually, I think the moment WAS there at one point, but once again, wanted to wait to get over the cold.

So last night we met at a bar for karaoke, they have these great two person couches up against the wall. So I got there a bit early to snag one of those, then took up alot of room on it so she had to sit close. After we got our first round I draped my arm across the back of the couch, but not yet touching her, I was just turned towards her while I was talking to her. It wasn't too long before she leaned into me and had her head on my shoulder, and then I dropped my arm down. A little while later, during a particulary loud singer, I leaned in close to say something to her, and she leaned in as well. I said it, then we both lingered, so time for the kiss. That was repeated quite a bit, at one point the karaoke dj made a joke about it when he called me up to sing. Then a bit later she started lightly stroking my thigh, then the back of my neck (I f'in love that). When she stopped I looked at her all serious and said "excuse me, did I say you could stop?" She laughed and started up again.

So that went great. I may have f'd up the other one, but at least I had my head screwed on straight last night and made the date go the way I wanted. I'm definitely going to se her again, probably at some point during the week.

Anyway, thanks for all the replies, I love the great advice that's given here.

I'll keep you guys updated on how it gos!


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Just an update:

I never ended up going to the bar to see the first chick, things started to go well with the 2nd- we're actually still dating.

Although it's starting to feel like this is fizzling out, so I may have to move on soon.


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