Well i'm quite new to the pua techniques and that, and am normally pretty shy. I tried doing some of the c&c stuff and managed to get a first date with a 9 that works with me at my office. On a side note I'm a a 26 year old broker, who's has lots of friends that are girls, but not gf's, but I've been slowly figuring out where my errors are.

That being the first date went really well, actually better than I could have hoped, and I've gotten a text and call from her since. That being said I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas for 2nd dates, she invited me over to her place (she just moved into a new place) for a tour and to hang out (she lives with her fam so I dont think this is anything more than just come over and hang out), but I need help on what to do next to make sure things don't go into the friend zone. When is the right time to move to a kiss, should I be coy and tease a bit more or is the 2nd date def. time? Please help a confused guy out, and if you have any suggestions for things to do on the 2nd or 3rd dates I know I could use them too.

Thanks

First of all, dont think of them dates... think of it as just hanging out with her... just do what you normally do: go to the beach, play monopoly at her house, go to a show, shopping, park... someplace where you she will have the privelage to know you.... also, reframe your mindset... be confident and dont try to impress her, just be yourself... As for making a move, start with kino then go into the mystery kiss close... hopefully that helps

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First off when I read the word "coy” I laughed, no offense to you its was just funny how you described it.

So lets talk about what TMT wrote This will lead you into a never-ending spiral of the friend’s zone. Hanging out is a good thing for her to think she is going to uncomfortable at first, but is a bad thing for you to actually think. The activates present are all well and good, monopoly is one of my favs, but they all need to lead to escalation and sexual framing if you are looking to get this girl into you sexually.
As for being yourself, seriously I’m sure you are an awesome guy, especially if you have lots of friends that are girls. The only issue is that they are just friends because you have been yourself, which is the sweet caring sensitive guy that is not peaking the sexually interest of them. This cannot be the case with the new girl who you are trying to date.

Here is my take. For one, no one can tell you the right time to kiss, you need to feel it. The Mystery kiss close is a good one and is great if you’re not sure if it’s a good time, but you want to give it a go. The activity you are going to do (no movies, shows, tv, dinner) is just a filler for you to find out more about her and to spike her interest in you. Keep topics rolling, besides what you are actually doing. Make her qualify herself too you and get her to open up, not by asking, “so what do you do”. Tell her interesting/ funny stories, you can run a few routines on her, ask a couple physiologic questions (strawberry fields, the cube), all while building comfort and a connection. Kino the whole time (light touching) will make the kiss easier and will let her know that you are interested. Have a stronger frame (hoop) such as sticking out your hand to see if she holds it, or other hoops work great to see how your progress is coming. It’s all up to you and your attitude on how the date will go and what the outcome will be.

If none of this sounds familiar, because I pretty much just summed up a certain book, then you need to do some reading before reposting.

Hope this gets you started.

CA

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