So, as you can tell i'm new at this... read the book..

so, yesterday i went sarging, got my balls (cause im shy as hell, used the alcohol a little but still used balls) and well, went to like 10 groups of girls said my opener, and just didnt know what to say after that...

example:
Me: Hey, you got a minute?
HB 7+7 (two girls): not really
Me: It'l just be a minut (that caught me by surprise, they weren't doing much)
HB 7+7: OK go on
Me: So i have this friend who's girlfriend (blah blah - girlfriend doesnt let his boyfriend (your friend) see his ex from school)
HB 7+7: I wouldn't let him see her either (and the other one goes) I agree
Me: OK thanks!

I jsut didnt know what to say after. plus, i said a minute. but still, even if they dont say the not really part, what should I do after an opener like that!!!?

Thanks guys!

Just found this thread, I have a similar issue that I posted on, hopefully someone can respond.

You should go into a routine like the best friends test or soemthing like that. Check out the Routine ares it has plenty of material in there, and after the opener finishes go into that routine.

I know that routine..

OK thanks, ill try better next time

she sounded like she had a bitch shield up, shoulda started to break it down.

been like, oh you wouldn't? let me guess you like to think you wear the pants in a relationship?

whatever she says, then get to something more playful

oh really? well thats a shame because this town ain't big enough for the both of us, i think we should duel!

pull your fist out and get her to play rock paper scissor with you, tell her, normally you would bet, but since you know you will win, tell her you won't take advantage of her.

if you don't know how to consistently win at rock paper scissor i suggest you learn, derren brown has a pretty simple explination of it

every time i beat a girl at it, after telling them they will lose i always get, HOW DID YOU DO THAT?!?!?

now you hold the power yet again, because you can use lines like, well i could tell you, but it will cost you, lets try something else, bam right into more routines.

breaking through the bitch shield either takes negs, conflict, or a combination of the 2, but getting her emotionally involved in any form is a golden opportunity.

i am guilty of starting fights for personal benefit, learn to use that as a tool

Immediate neg after opening, something like

you, talking to her friend, while acting hurt/surprised (shouldn't be too hard): "my god, she's so bossy/mean, how can you stand to be around her?"

friend: blah blah blah

you: "yeah, you know I thought I was getting this domineering vibe from her, almost like an energy, but almost tangible you know? (turn to target) But hey, it's cool, I find that trait endearing in a woman "

target: more shit test or hopefully a smile

you (cut her off if need be): "hey, how long have you two known each other? I just noticed something. I think I know. Do you two use the same champoo?"

OR if she tries to redirect you back to her shit test with "hey answer my question", talk to the friend again and bring up the domineering attitude, followed by "well then little miss bossy pants, why should I answer every single question you throw out there? who the hell do you think you are, the mayor of new york?"

Two things to keep in mind: 1) playful, teasing attitude with a hint of a smile, 2) maintain eye contact on delivery of all lines until she breaks it, then look away to the upper right.

Yeah I know, I could be great, if only I worked out my own problems

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