As to your post, you could try and state the obvious like, "Wow, this is so strange meeting here I mean you are like the girl from the airplane, I never meet people like this". If thats the way she feels, she will be like, "Oh so true blah blah", and she will be comforted by the fact that she is not the only one feeling 'uncomfortable'.

Totally, but I didnt want to do this while setting up the date. I think that would have made the date actually awkward.

Anyway, met with today for lunch and it went goooood. Kept her laughing most of the lunch, but tried to calm it down at points to get in some 'comfort building' (due to some responses to posts i have made i no longer have faith in my terminology.. not that i ever did). One thing i tried was to hold eye contact for a 'second' longer than i should, as if i was really gazing into her eyes. (not sure this did much, we'll see). I also did some mirroring and went in for some kino (kino seems to be mandatory for the transition into intimacy.. stated like that it seems so blatantly obvious, but the point still stands). some DHV happened for sure, attempted to drop very important facts, but provide very little detail, while following up with that sort of thing doesnt matter much, the real value lays in 'X"

--(responding to a huge 'natural game' trend that i have seen expressed in this forum. Much of what i say in this bits is often how o feel, so in some sense i am being 'natural about my views' however, i am attempting to use said statements ina tool-like manner, that has been illustrated to be successful. In this sense i feel like i am relying on 'canned' material. Not entirely canned, as it is unique to me, but canned in the sense that it is a 'routine' or 'guidelines often applied to routines' that it is at least plastic wrapped by someone and sold somewhere - in case this metaphor fails, i am using preconceived routines to maximize positive response.. this makes me feel like my material is semi-canned. )--

All in all an awesome lunch date with this girl. Of all the dates I have had this week - this is not an exageration, but i am using the term loosely as outlined in Neil S' second book, which reads more of a challenge. I already won and i only played the first chapter... i should still read the rest though.

Not much else to note.. i did bait her into stating herself, i never did (dont think =\... well not first i think, at least) that we need to have a second date (actually, this reminds me. She kept talking about this place she loved to have dinner at, i didnt take the bait. Then when she said we would have to 'eat' again in the future, i kept it simple and said of course we needed to have lunch again. Mighta been a bad reply, but i hope this keeps her anxious for her dinner date, which is clearly coming up)

Kinda lost - havent been thinking about the forum lately as i am very distracted / busy in life. But, awesome time with her and will continue to provide updates / any obsrevations that are relevant.

gotta jet - might have to edit this later

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Im friends with an air hostess and I was talking to her about guys who chat her up, be careful with k closing because its illegal for anyone to touch an air hostess and they can call airport security and have you fined! other than that good luck!!!

Good job on closing the chick, and especially being in an airplane. If you fucked up, there's no where to go and it'll be awkward the whole way through.

hey guys, i've read some stuff on these forums but never registered to post. i used to really struggle getting # closes coz i hated just asking for a #, felt like a tool so i tried a few different things out and i figured i should share so it was time register, hope these help!

1. this is by far the easiest to execute... casually take ur phone out during the conversation and dial the first 2 digits of a mobile number (where im from this is "04"), then pass it to her with a bit of a cheeky smile, you don't need to say anything, she will know what to do and she will finish it off for you... this ones gold, try it.

2. bring a pen and paper or get a hold of a pen and paper. tear the paper in half and write ur name and # on 1 half, then pass it to her. immediately followed by the 2nd half of the paper and the pen, once again, she will know what to do. this one is less "playerish" than using a phone but u do give the girl ur # some guys dont like that.

3. if ur going for cocky-funny, this can work. ask if she believes in pyshics, whether she says yes or no it doesnt matter, but tell her u can guess her phone number in a very playful manner... guess any damn number u want, when she says thats not it, say "damn, well you'll just have to give it to me normally then" and smile coz u got her number...

there u go, 3 ways to get a number without "asking", all field tested. let me know what u think, but be nice-ish coz im new to these forums!

Thanks Joker, that's something that never even crossed my mind.. though it could have been

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