So I went on a date with this cute 19 y/o Asian chick from OKC on Sat night... we got on very well, lots of joking and laughing. Kiss closed early on, and after that she was constantly holding onto my arm, resting her head on my shoulder, all sorts of good kino. At the end of the date when we said goodbye, we made out for a good while. I could feel by her somewhat rough kino she wanted more, but we were in public (you'll see in a sec why I didn't invite her to my place).

So today I try to set up a movie night with her tonight. She insists on it being at my place, but I'm 24 and still live with my folks, which she knows about. However, I'm super embarrassed by that fact, and bringing her over would mean she has to meet my mom (who makes shit super awkward with girls, like insisting I keep my bedroom door open when we watch a movie and getting pissed at me if I close it). It'll also be almost impossible to f close there because the walls are thin.

I suggest her place, but apparently she's not cool with anyone coming over after several people made a mess at her place and some guy she didn't know jerked off onto her bed. Even said she doesn't let her best friend over unless it's important. Jesus fucking Christ... SO..... I try for a compromise, saying we can do tonight at her place and next time at mine. She took a good half hour to respond (we'd been responding to each other almost instantly up til then) and when she did, all she said was "Pass."

Now I'm starting to get pissed off because she's not even willing to compromise, so I haven't responded. The mood of the conversation has gotten a bit too serious as well. I'm not sure how to proceed with this. Help is much appreciated.

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Invite her over to yours and clear things up with your mom beforehand. Preferably have her over when she isn't there, but if it's impossible, then just make sure she doesn't interfere. You don't have to f-close her then, just ramp up the tension a bit.

It's very possible she doesn't trust you enough to bring you back at hers, so once you invite her to yours, you should have built the comfort necessary to get her to invite you over. If she still doesn't want to, then she clearly has trust issues and it's up to you if you want to put up with that. I know I wouldn't.

I have no room to talk, but can't you just do it in public? Like in a dark movie or something?

First, things have gotten rotten between you two. So let it go for a bit to defuse the tension. Take a step back and return to re-igniting attraction.

Second, both options proposed above are viable. You don't need to f-close her. Nothing wrong with a little foreplay to leave her wanting more. You can also sneak her in late night, can't you? If not, go for a little public exploration mission. Besides the theatre, there's also department store changing rooms, or outside in the dark if you live in a warm part of the world.

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I think this is my best bet. I ended up texting her "Man you're hard to please, lol. Let's hit san jose then, I owe you In n Out anyway" (sort of an inside joke, but she did buy me a cupcake despite my protests on the 1st date). That was several hours ago and no response. I'm going to freeze her out a few days and then come back to it.

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Yeah sorry about her bed.


Dood have the talk with your mother. Then find your own place. Then also tell her that you want to come over just to hang out at her place and tell her that you don't want to have sex just spend some time with her cus you enjoy her company. It will start several fires in her pants. First fire is that she will think why whats wrong with me. Second one is that she will feel less pressure to have sex from you and she will then be ok with jumping you. Also you should respect her place. Its her place. If that fails just bring her to my place. I will just creep on her and grab some sloppy seconds you cool with that right bro?

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rent a hotel/motel room for cheap.

Honestly this ^^ I don't know why guys are wasting money trying to move out the house. It's just cheaper in a bad economy to get a hotel room or do it in public. The times it almost happened for me, I've either been in public or in a room. I'm not going to waste 800 a month trying to live on my own.

What. Having your own place (Apart from the benefits such as you know, pulling your own weight in society) is awesome for game purposes. You can use your apartment to demonstrate value in a ton of different ways, and when you reach a certain age, saying you live at your parent's place is an instant DLV.

Furthermore, it makes sex much more easier and less awkward, especially when you're going steady with a girl. I work with a guy that's 42 and still lives with his parents, it's goddamn pathetic. You can't learn responsibility without moving out and discovering the adult world by yourself.

I sincerely doubt that any guy living at his parents' place is there by choice. Some of us are still in school, are in between jobs and so forth.

Sure dude, but only if you're down to eiffel tower her.

Well, update: she ended up getting back to me at 7:30 last night asking if I still wanted to hang out. So I met her at an In n Out (since she bought me some food before and I said I owed her). We ate, then walked around, made out a little, then wound up in my car since it was so god damn cold. Made out some more, moved to the back seat because it was more comfortable. She pulled me down on top of her and it started getting heavy.

Then I get one of those involuntary burps. Fucking amazing timing. We both crack up but the moment is ruined. So we talk for a bit, end up talking a lot about sex... she asks if I like to finish early in sex, I ask why the fuck would anyone like that, she explains to me she needs like a 2 min break after each time she cums, etc. We started talking about the availability of our houses and kid of alluded to the idea of sex, then she had to go.

I like your idea Chino, though I don't want to invite her over and just out of the blue say "By the way it's not for sex." My plan going forward is to play it cool about the sex and just invite her over for a 'movie' when my mom isn't there during the day. I see a lot of guys saying "talk to your mom about it".... Idk, maybe it's me but that sounds like a super fucking awkward talk to have with your mother. And knowing mine, she wouldn't be happy with it anyway.

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And yeah, I'm DEFINITELY not living with my folks by choice, only because I can't find a full time job (which is why I'm fucking off to Korea).... the free food and rent is nice, sure, but I've noticed the only girls who are cool with it are those in college or ones who are living with their folks as well... most others are turned off by it.

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Dude with all that being said, it's cheaper especially if your under 28. You should have a degree or whatever by then. I know plenty of guys who bang hotties and live with their rents still. If you have shit tons of student debt, more than likely women will understand. More people are staying with their parents later. It's a growing social trend that is directly related to the rising cost of living. (Pulling your own weight in society?) Wtf does that mean bro?

But why bring it up? I don't get why it's even necessary for a girl to know where you live. Just get a room, or phrase it in a way that makes it adventurous to do it in public. You don't even have to mention "I live with my parents". Just say, "I want to try something more exciting..." And leave it at that. And if they ask you who you live with, just say, yeah my "roommates" have strict rules. And then presto, go to a hotel bro. You're making it too complicated bro, really.

I'm gonna give you another money line Baron. Whenever I invite a girl to do something, I always text her "Let's do it! I meant hanging out [or insert a fun activity] ... not sex" and if you want to push her button a bit further you can add this "Well... unless you're godlike at giving head "

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