Kasabi is a smart cool dude if you get to know him, but he sometimes comes across as a bully, cause he is traumatized with a lot of stuff in the community. However, i know sexaddict 911, even though he told me he does not care, not to post this, i will cause the dude is cool and has tons of experience, and a lot of you can benefit from his advise i know i have. Sexaddict is older about 38 or so, HE USED TO OWN A CLUB, and he is a massage therapist, the dude is legit, i doubted him and got into it over the keeping the number of the girl he slept with, but he had a contest with his buddies that is why he kept count... Not everybody has the same style, not all of us learn pua from forums or methods or the community, a lot of us are naturals, learn by trial and error with the experience... is ok to disagree and challenge other people idea what is wrong is to high jack threats, and put people down or assume they are lying cause we do not agree with their style or views... If you are a newbie i really recommend this dude for advise, same with a guy by the name of warped minds, for online game, jsmooth and adamataste cool, everybody has their niche and their strength...

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I am done with you, you take everything out of context for your own diluted self indulgence. You claim to have a high intellect and infinite wisdom ( through your apparent knowledge of my lack of knowledge) yet your comments are so narrow minded and futile.

If we met in person I am certain you would not be so brave as to make such ignorant comments. Since that will never happen. I will just add you to my "hater" list and be sure not to send you a christmas card next year.

I get a sense that you were probably bullied a lot in your youth, and now you feel empowered to be an online bully. You have finally achieved a high status among your online peers and you wish to flaunt it. Good for you. What ever floats your boat. Keep commenting and dissecting my posts. It's awesome, your just making yourself look like an ass. You are exibitting classic Alpha male envy.

Here's a classic for ya.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

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@ skills, I have an investment for a Cambodian coal mine that might interest you.

@ the newly self appointed forum moron. Why is it that you cannot actually address a single topic that I raise? I am offering you tangible, discussable topics that you are free to refute.
Actually, these are merely examples of what a 70 year old fart would tell a 40 year old Russian mail order bride.

Please continue.

Kasabi

If you have something to offer, please feel free to be a giver.

Right now you are just hating. Stop fighting with sexaddict and see what advice you can give to help guys on this forum get the girl.

That's why we are here. Not to tear each other down.

38...massage therapist.... sounds a lot like "Evil Stiffler" from SF. I don't think ES is 38 though...

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Well said JT.


I would also like to add, I am not here to fight or argue with fellow enthusiast.

I have no problem explaining my thoughts behind any theory or advice i give. I only have a problem with people who do not approach in a polite manner and without bias aggression.

That being said, I will address one question and comment. Well by the time i had reached 30 lays, i was still just a horny teenager. I was clueless. All i really knew was how to be confident and forward. It came naturally. But that's me.

At 30 or so lays even the most well read students of the game have merely tipped the glass of information. I have been in this game for 20yrs and still have a lot to learn about women. They are a complex anomaly. But my point is, each and every time i have been intimate with a women I've learned something. Be it a subtle gesture, a bite on the lip. an eyebrow raise, a look away, a blush, a turn of the shoulder.....etc etc commonalities. Being able to read body language is like knowing a secret language. The better you can interpret the actions, the better you will be.


I argue that there is a significant difference in numbers in what you call " observable game" When I see the word "observable" I assume you mean everything. Basic logic would dictate that the more you see the more you will learn.

Some signals can be soo subtle that one cannot even see them. but see them more then once or twice and they will seep into your mind (in the least your subconscious). To the aware and observant, they will pop on light a light bulb.

I am still learning to this day how to read "the secret of body language" It's really quite fascinating.

I can share one thing that I had not learned yet even after hundreds of lays. It was that quite a few women that are interested in you will check you out only when you are not looking. This is a very common practice. I felt so stupid when i finally realized it but being a student of the game it was awesome to know and to put it into play.

What has intrigued me so much about the very "art of seduction" is that it is can be so incredibly complex with an unbelievable amount of variables yet some times so incredibly easy. It truly is a beautiful thing. Women are so different then one another yet similar at the same time. Every situation has infinite possibilities.

What kept me going was the very fact that I was "progressively" learning. The more I learned the more intrigued i would become.

Because of the complexity and variables of "situational" pick up, there is truly no way for anyone to be able to read all the signs. ( hence "no limit to learning" Certainly not within"30 or so lays") But I believe the more experience you have within your observations, the better you will be prepared to see the signs.

the more familiar you become with the signs, the smoother you will become and the better you will be able to process all the information you receive.

I am glad to see there is a forum like this here. I could just imagine how far i would have went had I started out with access to a site like this.


I hope this gives you a little bit of insight into whom i may be.


If you have any other questions i would be more then happy to give you my thoughts, on the condition that you come correct, be civil. I will not respond again otherwise.

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Another observation that took quite a long time for me to see ( although it may have been there all along) is the "gaze" that specific look a woman gives you when you know she is 100% into you. its hard to describe, but it is the same in all women. it's a very unique look of interest and intrigue. I believe the only way to explain or acknowledge it is to actually bare witness yourself. I may have seen it many times and not known what it was.

It had eluded me. Once i was lucky enough to see this "gaze" in succession ( by two different women) all within a short period of time, I immediately recognized it. It became impossible to miss. Now whenever i see it, I move in with complete confidence.

This look rarely ever happens without first having emotional/personal contact. It usually comes around after a long or intense conversation.

Another tell that has been known to exhibit a similar "into you" sign, is the side to side eye contact. when you are speaking to a woman, if she is looking into your eyes but trying to look at both by shifting side to side.

This is also a general indication of extreme interest.

These signs that i have just spoke of are specific tells that I picked up long after my playing days began. I am sure some of you knew these a long time ago, but for me they are perfect examples of "learned observations"

I am sure I can tell you quite a few more. But hopefully you get my point.

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Sexaddict is giving advice to guys that want it. End of Story.

A natural who has learnt this by trial and error, is obviously going to have advice that is known in the pick up community. There is nothing dubious about this. It is the heightened observational skills that takes time to become secound nature, that needs to be admired.

It is not always possible to give advanced advice online as the written word is not sufficient. This is why it would be interesting to see sexaddict coaching in field to a newbie.

If guys are jealous, let them start their own thread and start answering questions.

It is human nature to seek validation, anyone who does not need it is a hermit.

Balance is the key we all wish to be loved and respected; anyone who says otherwise is lying.

Do what your doing sexaddict.

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hey dude thanks for your previous advice .. it made alot of sense !

now i got a new question.. im very into herbal medicine and different types of alternative healing but im not very good at massaging people..

what is the easiest method or system in order to learn massaging ? do you know a good book or source ?

thanks

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I dont want to hate or flame, and this will most probably come off as such, but I was just really curious... you have not once in your life read an article or anything on how to help attract woman? Secondly, how the hell did you find this, if I am correct, from what I read maybe a week ago, you wanted to create your own site about pick up and that's how you found this, why the hell would you click this site and not just make another. I mean, I have no reason to tell you that you are a liar, simply because I don't care and feel bad for you if you are lying cause at the end of the day you know the truth and why would you want to lie about sleeping with woman who you never did.

So like I should, I will ask a question.

At what point/age did you realize you were a master pick up artist, what gave away this, and what did you see in yourself that you recognized holy shit I can get any girl give or take that is in my line of sight. I ask so I can one day, when reaching that status can identify it.

I will go in details for a bit with this question. You can not tell me you were always perfect, that you came ut of your moms vagina and since pre-k been shagging anything you want, cause well lets be real. My point is, what did you differently since you started (lets say middle school which is average at least when I started with most guys I knew) and the day you realized you were perfect(again what age did you realize). What changed in your social skills, what position did you hold in life, and how did you view yourself as.

Please be as specific as possible only so I can so to say emulate these actions... All but one, 3-4 days a night, thats fucking crazy, there is no social life. Sorry, thats not social just banging a girl every night. Did you have friends, like real friends? Sorry if this is rude, I am generally nice, but obviously you know many think this is BS, I believe you exaggerate the truth slightly and might have possibly slept with lets say 400-800 woman. But 3/4 times a week, dude you would need knee surgery or some shit.

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The film Roger Roger has a guy from advertising who is really good with women. It was made before the GAME.

All PU technology comes from Sales. Seduction has been around for over 1000 years. Think of Shakespeare, and any movie before the 1980's they all have alpha males.

It is not impossible to have success if one is observant and has courage. I for one was a coward when young so learnt nothing.

If one has positive role models and ignores popular culture then sexaddicts success is not so far fetched. President John F Kennedy slept with over 1000 women because he had huge charisma and confidence.

It is also about effort and observational skills.

PU is just bringing all human technology together. Sexaddict is an exception and not the rule.

Professional PUAs start off training 7 days a week. Smart guys like businessmen are able to be socially successful as well. However for most people including myself this is a challenge.

Most of us have innergame issues. Takes these problems away and then anything is possible.

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Sorry not to be rude but is that a reply to my message or are you referring to something else said in this thread?

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Well I am not sure about your location, but in north America there are several places where you can do an introduction into massage class. If you do not have such avenues to explore. I suggest looking on you tube.( type in learn massage basics or something along those lines) Massage therapy can be very complex one must know the workings of the entire body to truly be efficient.

However there is basic knowledge that will allow you to make someone relaxed and feeling better. One of the most important rules of massage is to be constantly flowing, never break a flow. Always make your movement and pressure towards the heart, pay attention to the persons reactions as you do not want to cause any pain, start superficially then progress deeper and deeper then when finishing, come back out superficially again. As for techniques, I am certain you can find a lot about the basics on You tube or better yet, try this: http://www.massagenerd.com/

Their should be a lot useful information for you.

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Hey there, I have no problem giving you a background on who i am or how i became who i am.

I started out very shy with women but not shy among my friends. I was a juvenile delinquent. ( a bad kid) I was in and out of foster homes and juvvy as a young teen. As I entered high school i had already developed a bad boy persona.

Getting kicked out of every high school in my community let me see different cliques and groups of people. I garnered respect from the guys and was a mystery to the girls. But i was still shy around women. ( It wasn't until i was 17 that i decided to straighten out a bit and try to stay out of trouble. I went to a new school, but had changed my looks drastically. I cut my hair preppy and since i have bad eye site, i invested in contact lenses,( blue ones) change my style.

I had been to this high school before but was kicked out, so I was already known there. But also the "new me" was unknown. I was an exceptional athlete and soon became a star wrestler and football player. Al though this may seem impressive to americans, i am in canada, it's really not a big deal, but worked great for getting the girls. Although i was a virgin till i was 18, This new me that i had created, was working well, i had basically all the girls in the school throwing themselves at me. and because I was older and only in grade 10, it really did become a big orgy for me, even when i was breaking girls heart by just having sex with them, their friends would still want me. It really was a great time in my life.

I was extremely confident and cocky, by the time i was done with high school, I had already been with 100 women. I am not going to lie to you, It was quite simple for me as a teenager.

It wasn't until i got into the real world that i realized i no longer had my super powers. And girls where not throwing themselves at me. But I did still have my confidence, a great body and a sharp wit with a lust for attention and sex. It was still rather easy to approach women, I found that the high school mentality was still out there with girls, and basically from 19-23 it was still just a big fuck fest.

I was also lucky enough to have 2 best friends that were both extremely good looking and sharp. We formed a bond, and a competition on who could get laid more. we worked great together or on our own. At 23 we all moved into a giant house and called it the dog pound. You could not imagine the shit that went on there. It was crazy, we constantly had girls there, it was like a freaking porno house. We threw parties all the time, but were always serious when it came to getting laid and increasing our numbers.

It wasn't till i was about 25 that i realized I has a unique ability ( perhaps obtained through trial and error or a natural gift) You see my other two friends were far better looking then me, certainly in societies opinion and my own. But It became clear that i was slowly becoming the alpha dog, I was the one that would be leaned on to create the approach or break the ice with women, my two friends would swoop in shortly after.

But all of this led me to have an unbelievable amount of confidence. I have always been extremely personable and was great at my job in sales.

Once i realized i did have this unique ability as my two "better looking friends" were now asking me for advice, i started to pull away from them in our race. I was the first to top 500 and they were actually starting to lag, the closest was 420, i remember this number well because it shortly after became the international sign for smoking weed.

We soon parted ways but have some fantastic stories.

Onto the "art of seduction" Most of what i have learned is from paying attention, sheer numbers and repetition is a sure way to learn. I also would often speak to other PUA's ask for advice( its funny cuz a lot would try to miss guide you, it really was competitive among pua's) My sharp wit and love of dance were great tools, I had no fear of woman as I had already been with soo many. I knew if I was polite and charming the worst that could happen is a woman would tell me she was not interested. I quickly became aware of body language.

I have read several books of tells/ and body language. Just never any on the art of pick up or anything like that.

I did stumble upon this site, I was merely seeing if there was anything like this out here. My intentions were to see if anyone could in fact earn money for giving advice.

I really was oblivious to this or any other community, but I am certainly glad I have found it.

I have already helped a lot of people and I feel great about it.

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How to be a man?
This is a strange question,I know,but it really started bugging me for a while.I see a trend in my life:boys loose power and girls gain it.At young ages girls are always more mature,inteligent and so on(or so they are perceived)and the boys are the ones who are weak.I live in Europe,and i know the influence of the US(globalisation)is a big factor.My grandpa inherited shoes from his older brother,and then forwarded it to the youngest.Things like electricity,food(that you can't get for common animals)even cars where very rare.To sum it up,it was tough.My father had it "better".Clothes,food,other stuff became more available,so he didn't develop the strong kind of personality.He was less of a player than my grandpa.So i'm the third.After being a bully while a kid,i was forced to change.For reasons not important,my mother started having an influence in my life,trying to make me docile.
Truth is,it destroyed me.She isn't smart,but very insistent.Can't talk to people,but feels like a princess.I did stuff not knowing why(stuff that made no reason,other than "i said so").It's a long story,but it fucked me up.I lost my masculinity and fear started to control my life.And i'm not the only one.I see the younger generation being...domesticated by women.Husbands are to affraid,or do anything just to make her shut up.All this feminism bullshit,the easier life and absent father ruined not only me but an entire generation.
My question is,how do i break free?What must be done to destroy this invisible wall build by society?LoL i'm being dramatic.Almost 10 years of control by others made my paranoid and i have deep issues.What i desire is to become a man,to be able to get over it.I want to have that power,probably the only one that matters,the power to control my own destiny without fear or preassure from others(preassure i can't handle at least)
What's your oppinion?