This regards the people that play "indirect game" and are capable of having a casual conversation with a woman without shitting their pants.




When going 'indirect', this is what happens:

*You feel safer
*You have more time to display attractive qualities
*You get to stick around longer


Now let's think about it. Say you're at a club, and you wanna get laid that night.
Logically, the more women you interact with - the better your chances are of getting laid, correct?


Now let's compare this to going 'direct' . . .

So your goal is to get laid that night. Meaning, you want to interact with as many women as possible to increase your chances. Meaning, you need TIME and you need the QUANTITY.

You don't need to talk to her in order to display confidence. You don't need to talk to her in order to attract her. In fact, you barely need to talk to her at all in order to achieve everything you think you're achieving when you go 'indirect'.




I'd say confidence is the key to any kind of success in life, whether it be getting laid or becoming an awesome businessman in the future.


(Note: By success, I mean something that you've achieved and earned. Not talking about being born as the son of Will Smith.)

So how are you gonna display confidence and other attractive qualities, without wasting too much time? This is where the 'direct' game plays a role . . . You are a man. You are interested in women. You want to have sex with women. You want to have sex with a woman tonight. So you're not gonna hide your intentions, because this is what you want. And going for what you want displays confidence.


Do this by being sexual with a woman right from the start:

* Don't be afraid to move in close to her
* Don't be afraid to touch her
* Don't be afraid to say sexy things to her


If she test you by saying stuff like "you probably just wanna have sex with me" - don't piss your pants. Look her straight in the eye and tell her the truth.


Look for the signals. If she reciprocates to your touch, instantly take things to the next level. There's no time to waste. If the 'next level' is too much for her - take one step back and try again in a few minutes . . . (MINUTES, not hours)

What this 'direct' way does to you is:

*Saves time
*Increases your chances of getting laid
*Displays all of those qualities you wanted to display verbally before

Not to mention the fact that this is way more fun. Things are actually happening. Going indirect is BORING. You gotta sit around, talk about stuff that may not even be interesting, wasting way more time than necessary - only to find out after all this time that the reason she can't fuck you tonight is ________.




Plain and simple: Going direct is fun. Going direct saves time. And going direct is a faster and SAFER way of getting laid . . . safer in the sense you talk to
(for example) 25 women that night in comparison to the 10 women you would've talked to if you'd gone indirect. Direct game gives you the quantity and increases your chances that way.




No more bullshit and hiding intentions. YOU know what you want and you should stand up for that fact.


Peace out,

Panda.

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I can testify first hand this works REALLY well at swinger partys and swinger clubs. If fact it should be posted in the rules at the front door. HOWEVER it is not a one-size-fits-all type thing and it can be the worst thing you can do in some situations.

It could work well in large singles meat-market bars in large cities or in large hotel conference room or lounge parties etc etc. In other words it works well in large groups of people that do not know each other and will likely not encounter each other again.

If you are at an out of town business trip and are hanging out in the hotel lounge of a large downtown hotel in a big city, you have nothing to lose, go direct. the worst that could happen as long as you are polite and respectfull is to have someone say no.

Where this can bite you in the ass is in a local and closed group of people. If you are in a small school/campus or a smaller town at the local watering hole or in some other kind of small close-knit social group, word of being a player on the hunt can hurt you really bad.

Women talk voraciously. In fact men have little grasp of how much women talk. If you are out directly gaming women for sex in a closely-knit social group women's ASD will prevent them from taking you up on it even if they wanted to and then they will spread the word around about you hitting on them and it will make you look bad (even if you are hottie and deep down they want to get in your drawers) Their defences will go up and their shields will go up for other women in their tribe as well and you will be cockblocked and blacklisted.

Direct is not a one-size-fits-all type thing. If it is a large, mostly anonymous population that you are gaming, go direct and go direct with gusto. If you are in a smaller, interwoven social circle you may need to go very indirect or even downright undercover/clandestine.

reminds me of GWM

Basically just be like russel brand. Be super sexual.

"oh my gawd, you are getting so turned on by me.....kidding love" etc.

He makes REALLY sexual comments, then plays it down. Seems to work for him.

another thing about direct and sexual, after the first try if you get even the slightest benefit its a huge confidence boost for the night, highly increasing your chances for later.

tonight i used the Shock and Awe technique with a little bit of sixty years of challenge. hb9 at a party was vibn me with her eyes, i eye banged her to get a vibe going. after alittle i put out my hand and she followed to isolation. got real close and sexual and said something about how bad i wanted her sexually and how it was her fault. she called me out on it being real so i tried to prove it with a kiss but she turned away. held eye contact for a sec, then looked to the side (sixty move when facing resistance) and planted another one on her, landed. if your going direct then id recomend 60's stuff.

I'm glad you pointed this out. However, direct game can in fact work anywhere and anytime.

Only difference is that you should tune it down in certain situations.
Very true. Some people are afraid of playing it this way because it's 'too scary' to make ballsy approaches just like that. But once you actually do it (regardless of a failed attempt) and your chemicals start doing their thing, you feel like the man and your confidence shoots through the roof.

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I agree with you that direct is the best way. It's also more fun than talking, more exciting.

But I'm still stuck with direct game at daytime. In a bar or club, it's normal to go caveman. On the street, or at work, it's not. Social norms and values make being too direct a taboo. It might show you have confidence but it is perceived as abnormal behaviour as well, and people don't want abnormality. Looking for the right balance is pretty difficult.

Conversational skills are good to trigger interest. If she is interested by what you say, she will give you time and opportunity to seduce her, with eyes, body language and touches. However, the more you talk, the more chance you might blow it up by validating yourself or saying bad things.

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Yes and, as my previous reply states, there's a time and place for everything. Going 'caveman direct' during the day isn't the best option. But that doesn't mean you can't go 'direct' in general. Verbalizing your interest instead is therefore the option you should be going for.

Simply walking up to her, opening, stating your interest, small talk and closing wouldn't take more than 10 minutes.

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i dunno, im starting to think that direct always has a place and time, you just have to calibrate a little. im not being stuck up or anything but since im a pretty good looking guy going indirect seemed to lose the girls more often than not because i would beat around the bush. being direct helps me build sexual tension quickly and in heavy amounts so that we can both get to what the animal inside of us is looking for...a long sweaty night on the floor, kitchen table, wall, and couch.

my biggest thing with being direct was getting comfortable being a very sexual person. theres nothing wrong with wanting someone sexually, and even expressing it. once you get that through your head it becomes alot easier imo.