Paul Janka talks about Changing yourself for Women



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:30 am 
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This is more from the Paul Janka's book "Attraction Formula". This is some of the best inner game material I've ever read. I tried editing to make it as short as possible.. but there is so much good material it ended up being pretty long anyway. Enjoy:

"The emasculation of the American male is at an all-time high. Whatever the causes may be – women’s lib, decreasing relative earning power of the American male, a litigious society, a general political correctness that makes everyone suspect – it’s a fact that men are hesitant like never before to exercise their natural dominance when it comes to women. This is pathetic.

The degree to which a man is devastated when a relationship ends is
equal to the degree to which he has compromised his terms.


Again, this is all about discipline. Women have an insane ability to test their men in every way. The testing begins on first contact when you’re getting her telephone number. It will continue indefinitely, but you can curtail it by demonstrating early on that she can’t affect you. In a way, it’s a form of stoicism. More simply, it’s a
discipline that you need to exercise in the relationship, especially at key moments when she’s really intent on getting you to do something that you’d rather not do. That’s the key – the discipline allows you to maintain your independence, which, paradoxically, is what attracted her to you in the beginning. Maintain that masculine integrity and direction and she’ll admire you, fuck you and cease to test you at every juncture. She will trust you.

If you learn nothing else from this book, absorb this message. Men around the world are suffering because they don’t know or understand this. Women will test your boundaries in many ways you don’t even know. The more you give up against your better judgment the more hurt you’ll experience when you split. A very simple example is the guy who chases the hottie around town wining and dining her, buying trinkets, extending himself beyond his better judgment, all in an effort to please the insatiable appetite of his woman. As she loses respect for him because he’s violating any sense of self-respect or personal/financial boundaries, she’ll have her eye out for the next Joe. She’ll jump from one sucker to the next and our poor sap will be alone and on the hook for who-knows-what. He’ll have “lost” (though he never had control of the situation, because he was out of control) the girl and he’ll be full of anger and regret.

The problem with bending terms to please a girl is that both parties lose respect – the man for himself and the woman for the man. She senses, even if it’s subconsciously, that she can bend her man. Once she knows this, it’s over. She can’t fully surrender to his love, because she doesn’t trust him. His strength and integrity is questionable. The man, for his part, is devastated with the outlays he made, whether they’re outlays of time, money, affection, vulnerability, or reputation. If he gave too much and the relationship ends (which it will) he will feel fully bankrupt because he’ll feel as though he gave everything and it was all for naught. He lost. He’s empty, done. Finished.


Living by uncompromising terms will empower you, I guarantee it. When I know what I want and what I will accept, it’s much easier to navigate the dating landscape. I can approach a woman with confidence, knowing that I’ll test her willingness and I will learn if she’s interested without giving up much on my end. The profound truth of this tenet can be seen in two ways – the despair of a man after his woman leaves (he didn’t honor his terms) or my contentment, for example, when a really good-looking woman refuses to come into my apartment. She’s beautiful and she turns and walks, never to be seen again. Believe me, I would love a shot, but I have too much experience to imagine it will get better if I comply to her demands. I know her type.

That’s another key point. No matter how hot you think some girl is, you’re better off just doing your routine and inviting her along for the ride. That is the true test of keeping your terms. Live your life as you wish and see if she sticks around. If she doesn’t, you will NEVER have a satisfying, functional relationship with that girl.

A man should do what he pleases – he should lead the night as he would if he were alone or with a friend or lover; in other words, along his vision – and see how she responds. The more you honor yourself, the less you’ll care if she leaves. Don’t spend more money than you want to, don’t forfeit opportunities you seek, don’t shirk responsibilities or short-change friends for your girl. Your relationship will last longer this way and if she does choose to leave (or you choose to leave her) you’ll be fully intact emotionally, financially, personally and spiritually. --Paul Janka

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The degree to which a man is devastated when a relationship ends is
equal to the degree to which he has compromised his terms.

Great post. Love this quote.

I just want to emphasise another quote: "I can approach a woman with confidence, knowing that I’ll test her willingness and I will learn if she’s interested without giving up much on my end."

What this means is, if you go completely direct, then you're immediately screening for girls that are (i) attracted to you, and (ii) up for it. If they're not, you waste 1 minute and are onto the next one. If they are, then all you have to do is hit a bit of qualification and comfort and you can either n-close, or instadate. The whole thing takes 5-10 minutes.

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The degree to which a man is devastated when a relationship ends is
equal to the degree to which he has compromised his terms.

Great post. Love this quote.

I just want to emphasise another quote: "I can approach a woman with confidence, knowing that I’ll test her willingness and I will learn if she’s interested without giving up much on my end."

What this means is, if you go completely direct, then you're immediately screening for girls that are (i) attracted to you, and (ii) up for it. If they're not, you waste 1 minute and are onto the next one. If they are, then all you have to do is hit a bit of qualification and comfort and you can either n-close, or instadate. The whole thing takes 5-10 minutes.

TRY IT.
Exactly. You weed out the women who are a waste of time and focus your attention on the ones with potential. It saves loads of time and energy.

Its better than finding one girl you are very attracted to and putting all your effort into "winning her over". Doing so is a losers game or as we call it: AFC game.

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This is a great thread.

I can speak from experiance that i have learned the Hard way when it comes to compromising myself in the past.


• The degree to which a man is devastated when a relationship ends is
equal to the degree to which he has compromised his terms.


Example.

I will give a brief bit of background.

6 months into relationship with women who was used to always getting her way with men.
She was an expert at playing vunerable helpless blonde who loved guys to do everything for her.
Until i turned up. I encouraged her to come out of her shell and do more for herself.


I get a call.

Her car had broken down 50 miles roughly from where i worked.
Back then i worked 6 days a week and she was part time (being wealthy she did what type of jobs suited her).
By asking questions it was obvious the battery was dead. ( i am a car wiz and even had a spare.
I said do you want me to come and rescue you.
She said you have been working hard all day and its not fare to come all the way out of your way over here.
She said i can call the AA. Up to you.
They take ages to turn 3 hours.

I see her that evening.
I tell her to go to a store tomorrow and get them to supply and fit a new battery.
(halfords)
This is because i am working.

She goes to store and gets amoged by some tool (customer)who convinces her that there is nothing wrong with her battery and he could fix it in the carpark?
She goes back into store TOOL folowing. (tool and store manager have arguement)
Some 2 hours later she gets home in tears.

I get the blame.

You should have came over that evening. blah blah.

I have though about this many times.
I could have gone over and saved the day.
But i wanted her to sort her own shit out.

The relationship ends 5 months later. she ends it.

Her parting comments are.

I llove you............I have never met anyone like you before........

But most interestingly is the (i have always got men to do everything i want and could not bear it to see you end up just like the rest of them.)

When it ended i was a little sad.
But i had not compromised myself.
A little relieved and quite clad.
And i laugh myself stupid when i think of these 2 fellas fighting over her in halfords.
But i also think.........have you ever seen a superfit HB 9 IN HALFORDS.

In earlier relationships i was devestated because i had compromised to much.

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Great story. More proof that women don't respect men they can push around and manipulate.

Their "tests" are designed to identify suckers. Once they find a sucker.. they use him and move on. Women cannot be attracted to men they don't respect.

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"Live your life as you wish and see if she sticks around"

I see a very big problem with this quote and the article in general. Not to say it isn't a good read, and I defiantly agree to some things it mentions.
But I also disagree with some things.

With the quote. I have to say that it is not a good idea at all to stick by this advice.
Relationships are all about compromise. Both you and her must compromise things in order for you both to be happy. By living your life as it is and seeing if she sticks around fucks the whole thing up.
It makes it so she must compromise everything and you compromise nothing. This mast a great unbalance in the relationship. Thus, not having it work.


Relationships are all about compromise

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