I'm no PUA. I am an energy worker though. Because of my recent attachments I found myself getting into inner game. My goal is to gain a swift smooth and high energy state of being 100% of the time. I don't want anything pre-canned. I want to rely only on energy and my own brain. Who should or where I should I look into in order to help with this?

Learn pick up, and become a pick up artist.

So you're possibly looking at Pual janka, Vin dicarlo, juggler etc.

Inciddently do you consider "Hi, how are you?" to be canned. Becuase people learn the words to that and use it over and over again when speaking to women.

Although I will support you, their is nothing wrong with canned material its natural.

also isn't a consistent "energy" going to turn boring? Sure it may be good for the get go.....but we are humans. Sometimes are fucking pissed and want to remain so..right?

i am torn on this. in one hand i think that natural game is better because i is more sincere and spontaneous. on the other, i like canned game because when you are stuck for something to say, stories and routines will make your game more efficient.

FUCKING GROSS!!! Do NOT learn anything from Paul Janka, he's a sick fucking creepy son of a bitch.

I was talking with my sister over msn today, when she sent me a link to that horrible voicemail by Dimitri that you may have seen a couple threads about on the forum here, where he says things like, "Your friends were envious I approached you the other night, even if they say they weren't." lol-has-anyone-heard-this-vt24138.html

Then a few minutes later she sends me this link http://jezebel.com/5020419/dimitri-the- ... valuations . From there, you can get to ALL SORTS of interesting and scary stuff about Janka, such as these:

Attempted rape: http://gawker.com/tag/paul-janka/?i=501 ... ape-charge

What he does to an internet site reporter that meets up with him to interview him: http://jezebel.com/335827/paul-janka-di ... last-night

Whatever you do, DO NOT EVER try to learn from this Paul Janka guy, cause he is a sick fuck. Same with Dimitri aka James Sears.

Here's a review and transcript of the voicemails left by "Dimitri":

http://jezebel.com/5020082/your-friends ... oached-you

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Haha! I thought it he seemed a bit wierd on doctor phil. If that is how he implements himself in life, fine.

But it doesn't make his material redundant, possibly if his books actually condoned rape etc, but they don't, so I'm fine with reading his material.. ..if I can find it.

Edit: On the attemted rape.

A girl goes to his place with the intent of tricking him into talking and then probbly bad mouthing him, things get sexual, she claims it was rape. No witnesses word versus word.



A possible scenario.

Girl turns up expecting PJ to be a work of shit, has set intent to make him seem an ass.
PJ proves he is not an ass.
PJ gets K-close or Full close
Girl gets buyers remorse after realising she's been played and that she was possibly wrong about PJ.
Girl uses situation to make rape allegations.
PJ realises what's happening and see's that arguing this isn't going to be any more productive seeing as it's word for word and he's already seen as a "sexual predetitor "sack of shit"". People naturally "know" which story to believe.

You guys do know what the statistics are for deliberate false accusations of rape are? And you all know how girls get when they think they have been used by some predator.

I would take what is said about janka with a pinch of salt.

How fitting that mikeformayor's avatar looks exactly like Janka.

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ROADS!!! quick leg it.... rye lee and chief are planning to kill you!!!!

Btw, about these claims, it is ultimatly up to each persons individual values. Some people on here believe the octoberman is a fair and usefull tool, where as i feel (like many others) its over the line. Where as i think most NLP is fine, some people dont.

I take everything with a grain of salt, but when a reporter goes to meet up with him and he KNOWS she is a reporter and he continually tries to grab her crotch and shove his hands down her top (I don't believe these to be exagerations from how it is written and the fact that he never disputes it in the least), then it makes it MUCH easier for me to believe what the girl that claims attempted rape says.

Now, that being said, he may know some stuff, he may have some decent advice in places, but he is not a role model in any way shape or form as far as I'm concerned. There are keyboard jockies that have good info that guys are able to make work and that has even helped my game at times and I don't say not to listen to them just cause they are KJs. I personally see no reason to read anything written by a guy that obviously doesn't have the skill he claims with women and instead resorts to being a grabby pig, because if he knows the stuff he claims, then he would know that that isn't an effective way of doing things. Perhaps he's getting a decent bit of sex and if that's your only goal, if you have no problem looking like scum to everyone, then great, read his stuff, but if you have morals, then I see no reason why you would resort to methods such as those, when there are a million other methods that "leave them better than you found them" and that are highly effective.

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lmao it does look like janka! im just using that as my avatar for now until i take more pics.

Once again their are no witnesses, so the same above could apply.

When we're called Pick up artist or are known womanisers it becomes extremely easy to paint us as creepy, wierd, rapey, social rejects.

His day game has been seen with him closeing numbers and being very pleasant while he does so. In fact a Short term girlfriend of his described him as "charming and sweet."

There's no proof outside word against word arguments relying solely on his reputation as a seduction artist to back them up.

In my opinion PJ did the smart thing not trying to refute them.

What can he refute them with? His testimony? We all know that his "title" and gender will earn him unfavourable bias in a word against word argument.