Ok so I'm running my mum's shop (pet shop, just me in here) and I heard someone come in. I heard them talkin when they came in so I knew they were together. I walked round to see if I could help either of them and as I got to the end of one of the isles I was confronted with the most spectacular girl. My heart literally jumped into my throat! I never get like that but the face on this girl was to die for. It was the most gorgeous little face I have seen in a long time. I was just knocked back at what I saw... quite hard!!
So anyway she asked if I had a specific type of dog food. I went to go check out the back but didnt have any. When I came back to the counter she was standing there with who I can only assume was her mum. Im guessing she's about 18 or so. The mum said "have you got a bag cos I want some pigs trotters (pigs feet for dogs to chew, nasty I know) but dont want to touch them". "yeah no worries, I'll get them for you". So I went round and got them and when I came back I said "ya know the restaurant up the road does a nice steak, that'll save you having to touch the pigs trotters every time you get hungry". With that the mum and the daughter laughed and the daugher said "yeah chance would be a fine thing".
I told them I could get the food for them tomorrow and asked the mum if she wanted me to call her when the food comes in. She said yes so I took her number. We said our goodbyes and off they went.
Now, this is where I need help. I so wanted to interact with the daughter more. If I could turn back time I would have said to the mum:

me: "is this your daughter"
mum: "yes"
me: "wow, I bet she's a little heartbreaker aint she!?"
(daughter hopefully blushing and giggling by this point)
mum: "yeah she's gorgeous isnt she"..... Or what ever, and I would have taken it from there and tried to extract a number from the daughter.

So the good thing is I already made them both laugh. Im going to call the mum when the food is in but there's a few scenarios that could occur and need help with how I should handle all of them.

1.) I could call the mum, tell her the food is here, she comes in and picks it up alone.

2.) the mum comes in with the daughter again to pick up the food.

3.) the mum says she cant make it today but will come in saturday, and saturday is my day off

4.) the food, for reasons out of my control, doesnt arrive and so I have to call the mum to inform her there's a delay.

Now, how can I handle all of those scenarios? If they both come in together again I kinda got that covered but any thoughts would always be welcomed. If the mum comes in alone, what should I do? Sweet talk her then ask her if it was her daughter and tell her straight that I never do this because its unprofessaional but her daughter was gorgeous and I want to get to know her, and try and get some info about her/ get her to put in a good word for me? If the mum says she'll come in saturday, shall I say to her over the phone I wont be there and then try and ask her about her daughter there and then? If the food is unavailable, the same thing? They live about a 5 min drive away so if the food doesnt come in until we close I could always offer to deliver it personally after work. I know that could look desperate but I could jokingly say I'll drop it round to your house if you put your daughter on the phone. If she does I could talk her round to going for a drink or what ever.

Any thoughts what so ever greatly greatly appreciated.

Cheers guys.

Mom's are usually a lot more understanding and respectful of genuine, respectful guys being interested in their daughters (dad's tend to be more protective) so you've got a decent set up here.

Personally I like to go al naturale when I'm in any situation and just let things flow but there is no really what's the harm in telling the mother that you thought her daughter was really cute and wanted to meet her or just saying to the daughter "you're very cute" and seeing how she responds? I used to work at a restaurant and if I was getting IOIs from a woman I would use the "you're very cute" line. It's similar to Mystery's, "Would you like to kiss me?" line as a means of testing the waters.

As men we tend to logically overanalyze situations that are important to us often to an uncessesary degree. Forget your "training" to pick apart and analyze senarios to win women over and just get in there and go for it.

For example, when you offer to deliver the food it looks desperate to you but think about if you were the mother and no one knew you had interest in the daughter. Pretend you were the mother and you got a call saying, "your order just came in, since you're only about 5 minutes away from here I'll be happy to drop it off." This doesn't exactly scream, "I find your daughter attractive and am desperate trying to meet her" to anyone but yourself. The mother or whoever answers will just see it as a courtesy and look positivley upon you for doing something like this; you will make a good impression.

Stop thinking in worst case senarios - think success for once. My rule of thumb is always assume the best-case-senario because that breeds confidence, fearlessness and eagerness to achieve where assuming the worst breeds anxiety, nervousness and fear.

Everything in the community seems to be about finding ways to meet women by doing everything but being honest or upfront about how a man feels and it makes things so much harder than they need to be. It's like you want to take a straight line from A to B and build yourself a maze to make getting from one to the other a challenge and creating more ways for yourself to fail in the process.

You shouldn't be trying to navigate your way around covertly hiding your intentions left and right or you will be left with far less power to get this girl.

You find the girl cute what's so wrong with that?

- Chris

Thanks man, I totally agree. One thing I need to ask though is what if I dont see the girl when dealing with the mother? Would it be odd if I say to the mother that I think her daughter is cute & I would love to meet her? Either over the phone or face to face?
I mean, Im quite a firm believer of doing my own dirty work. I dont really get girls to ask their friends any shit for me. Is a mum any different?
any thoughts anyone?