Phone Calls. Where, When, and How?



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:15 pm 
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I wish I could produce a useful post that was to ANSWER some of the questions, but I am still a student.

"the phone call: where, when, and how."

There are four phases to phone call etiquette. They are: the initial phone call, the comfort building phone calls, the seduction phone calls, and the relationship building/maintaining phone calls.

I am going to write how I THINK the proper methodology should be. Let me know if I am off....also, I am going to ask some questions about that certain phase. Again, lets get some input on that too.



Initial Phone Call Phase:


Your initial phone call should be short; drop a false time constraint.
Just say hi. Tell em they had fun. Tell em a quick funny tale. Then get off the phone.
If they don't pick up, don't leave a message.
If they call you back, you are in to move to the next phone call stage. If they don't, then you had a flake number. Toss it, and go get 10 more!

when you number close a target, when is a good time to give her the first phone call? One day, two days? A couple hours?
How to do judge that?
Would it be better to start with a text?
If YES for a text - would it be better to text that night after the venue and just be like "hi" or would it be better to text the next day?
Would it be better to call their phone right when you get the number, and then wait for them to call or text you that night or the next day?


Comfort Building Phone Call Phase:

After your initial phone call (that was brief and just enough to maintain interest) you are onto your comfort building phone call.
Your comfort building phone call is just that. You talk about some things that you enjoy; steer clear from the twenty questions. Throw in a couple REAL stories with dHv spikes. talk about interesting things. This phone call is important to continue to build attraction, escalating sexual innuendo, building comfort, and planning a day two.
It is NOT JUST for "hey I am headed here, you're welcome to tag along." you CAN use that, but use it in addition to the material portraying how awesome you are.
DO NOT come off as needy or over-excited for a day two. Simple "im going here..., you should tag along" type thing after a great conversation.

Don't leave a message if there is no pick-up. Send a text the next day.

When do you make the second call to the person?
Do you wait for them to call you?
Do you call them a day or two after your initial one?
Do you call the day after your initial call and set up a date right away?




Seduction and Attraction Phone Call Phase:


Again, in this phase you continue to be entertaining, but now the conversations are a little more light. They are more small talk; continue throwing sexual charged stuff in the conversation. Don't come off as needy at all. She still needs to EARN your attention. If you're bored, don't stay on. You are not obligated to talk to her; you care (because both of you invested emotions and time into this) but at the same time, you still need to keep her attraction switches turned on. Be exciting. Don't be needy.

After your day two (or F close) how long should you wait to call them?
How often should you call them? Once a week, three times a week? Once a day?
What if you don't hear from them....should you wait for them to call you?
Should you text them after a certain amount of time from not hearing from them?
Should you leave messages?


Relationship building and maintaining Phase:
havn't gotten here yet, but you pretty much are in a mutual bond at this point.
You might call eachother nightly, or just on a regular basis.
Be interesting, but start getting more personal. Give mutual IOI's.
Verbalize interest and set up reoccurring "meetups."
Don't come off as needy, but @ the same time, don't come off as a careless asshole either.





There are a lot of different responses from different people. I wanted to group them together and get a general consensus. Once I start getting to where I need to be in my game and with everything in general....the phone call theory is going to be my focus - what I will be testing and trying to perfect.

but first...i need to get everything else down ;p and I need to figure out these simple basics.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:18 am 
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I find the best time to make any call is while driving then i have a real time contraint plus it gives me something to do while driving other then listen to the radio.. You can talk till you get somewhere then say oh i'm here.. now u are building some higher value by being somewhere cool and then get off the fone.. I love it.. I find it so lame to be sitting at home calling girls so..

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:24 pm 
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I wish I could produce a useful post that was to ANSWER some of the questions, but I am still a student.

"the phone call: where, when, and how."

There are four phases to phone call etiquette. They are: the initial phone call, the comfort building phone calls, the seduction phone calls, and the relationship building/maintaining phone calls.

I am going to write how I THINK the proper methodology should be. Let me know if I am off....also, I am going to ask some questions about that certain phase. Again, lets get some input on that too.



Initial Phone Call Phase:


Your initial phone call should be short; drop a false time constraint.
Just say hi. Tell em they had fun. Tell em a quick funny tale. Then get off the phone.
If they don't pick up, don't leave a message.
If they call you back, you are in to move to the next phone call stage. If they don't, then you had a flake number. Toss it, and go get 10 more!

when you number close a target, when is a good time to give her the first phone call? One day, two days? A couple hours?
How to do judge that?
Would it be better to start with a text?
If YES for a text - would it be better to text that night after the venue and just be like "hi" or would it be better to text the next day?
Would it be better to call their phone right when you get the number, and then wait for them to call or text you that night or the next day?
These variable are different with each girl. Some girls are excited, and you leave them wanting you more (hopefully that happens with all girls, but realistically we know that's not the case). The more excited the girl is about you, the sooner you contact them back. Whether by text or straight out call. One other note about this: You CAN call a girl immediately after you/she puts her number in your cell . . . as a "test" to make sure it's her number. Voila. You now have each other's number. It works very well. I do it myself.
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Comfort Building Phone Call Phase:

After your initial phone call (that was brief and just enough to maintain interest) you are onto your comfort building phone call.
Your comfort building phone call is just that. You talk about some things that you enjoy; steer clear from the twenty questions. Throw in a couple REAL stories with dHv spikes. talk about interesting things. This phone call is important to continue to build attraction, escalating sexual innuendo, building comfort, and planning a day two.
It is NOT JUST for "hey I am headed here, you're welcome to tag along." you CAN use that, but use it in addition to the material portraying how awesome you are.
DO NOT come off as needy or over-excited for a day two. Simple "im going here..., you should tag along" type thing after a great conversation.

Don't leave a message if there is no pick-up. Send a text the next day.

When do you make the second call to the person?
Do you wait for them to call you?
Do you call them a day or two after your initial one?
Do you call the day after your initial call and set up a date right away?
Ok, this "second call" is not a requirement for setting up a day two. You can set up the day two with the first contact. Otherwise the variables again depend on the girl. Since you've, in this scenario, contacted them once, wait to see if she calls you back. If she doesn't, drop her one more line in a couple of days, maybe even three or more, depending again on the girl and level of excitement.

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Seduction and Attraction Phone Call Phase:


Again, in this phase you continue to be entertaining, but now the conversations are a little more light. They are more small talk; continue throwing sexual charged stuff in the conversation. Don't come off as needy at all. She still needs to EARN your attention. If you're bored, don't stay on. You are not obligated to talk to her; you care (because both of you invested emotions and time into this) but at the same time, you still need to keep her attraction switches turned on. Be exciting. Don't be needy.

After your day two (or F close) how long should you wait to call them?
How often should you call them? Once a week, three times a week? Once a day?
What if you don't hear from them....should you wait for them to call you?
Should you text them after a certain amount of time from not hearing from them?
Should you leave messages?
Keep the convo more light? Eh, not really. You are starting to get more "intense" at this point, partially to engage her more, also to move things forward between the two of you. For those other variables, once again, it all depends on the girl. This stuff is where calibration comes in. You don't want to be needy or clingy. You have to pay attention to the interest level of the girl in question.
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Relationship building and maintaining Phase:
havn't gotten here yet, but you pretty much are in a mutual bond at this point.
You might call eachother nightly, or just on a regular basis.
Be interesting, but start getting more personal. Give mutual IOI's.
Verbalize interest and set up reoccurring "meetups."
Don't come off as needy, but @ the same time, don't come off as a careless asshole either.





There are a lot of different responses from different people. I wanted to group them together and get a general consensus. Once I start getting to where I need to be in my game and with everything in general....the phone call theory is going to be my focus - what I will be testing and trying to perfect.

but first...i need to get everything else down ;p and I need to figure out these simple basics.
This last part is good.


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I didn't DHV enough with this one HB7, and didn't get her to qualify herself, but got her number anyway. Called that night to make sure it's legit.

Problem was I couldn't isolate her. Just didn't feel right at the time. Anyway, I figure my first call to her I'd immediately get her to qualify herself and throw in a couple of DHV stories. Then time bridge to a day 2.

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Anyway, I figure my first call to her I'd immediately get her to qualify herself and throw in a couple of DHV stories. Then time bridge to a day 2.
Sounds like a plan. Just make them quick stories.


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