Disclaimer: I developed this method from my personal experience and I do not think it is 100% rejection proof or what not. That being said, I would like to add that I do not speak English fluently so I apologize in advance for my mistakes, thank you. This will be a long thread but I really think that it's worth reading and that many people will learn from it.

My background

First thing first: Who am I? Why should you guys take my advices? I'm just a 19 years old normal guy with basic knowledge in seduction. I've been aware of this community for maybe 2 years now, I've read a ton of books, e-books, videos about seduction, I've been going out at least once a week for the past two years (Why?because I simply love it and I always have a great time). Having read all those books and done everything that I done, I realized that I could simply NOT memorize everything they show you in pick up. No matter how hard I tried, I would always forget about 99% of stuff I was reading about pick up. So I just decided to "do me", and experience success/denies by myself, with the help of some basic pick up methods.

The Basics

Okay, before I tell you what I think are the most important concepts of pick up, I need to add that I don't think you should just stick with these and stop looking for informations, reading a book or two on pick up, texting game or even sex is always a good idea! Okay, now... What are the mains concepts that I think are the most important when it comes to gaming girls?

1) Eye contact: Eye contact is incredibly important! It is amazing what you can achieve with non-verbal. Every guy should take the time to master the art of eyes contacts! Deep stares have the ability to NOT reduce sexual tension, but to INCREASE it. Look at the girl like you are about to fuck her hard. Personally, I think that my stare is at his best when my eyes are semi-closed. For some people, it may look natural that my eyes are small but I constantly work on it.

2) Kino escalation: Need I say more? ....
Of course, kino escalation is an amazing tool to master. Since there is so much information on this forum about escalating, I won't explain it further. I would just like to tell anyone out there who doesn't think that escalating is actually useful that most girls will find it awkward to kiss a guy who haven't escalated well. Same goes for sex, did you ever fuck a girl without kissing her? Check out Vin Dicarlo's Escalation ladder for more information about kino.

3) Cocky&Funny: Okay... This one is really tricky.

Some guys master it... Others are awfully bad at it. For new guys out there, I would not recommend it since they often have ton of problem with calibration and they will end up looking like a real asshole (Not the attractive kind of assholes that women always fucks). However, cocky&funny is a cool tool to have in your arsenal. You make a joke about the girl you are trying to seduce. Just to tell her that you're not like every other guy that will do whatever she asks. While using cocky&funny, I realized that you will get much better results if you add a "soft/cute side of your personality". She will have trouble screening you and she will be much more interested in you (She will wonder if you're a nice guy or a jerk...). Just like escalating, I won't elaborate much since there is so many information about this concept on the forum. But.... Being cocky&funny will eventually lead us to...

4) Waves of emotions: Yes... Waves of emotions... For lack of a better traduction ...

Anyways, what do I mean by waves of emotions? The girl must never have a neutral point of view about you. Does it sound weird? of course, but it has something to do with psychology. Since I'm having hard time to explain this concept, let me show you an example:

You are currently flirting with this girl. At some point, you start making fun of her for whatever reason you found... Eventually, the girl will start to get annoyed by you and she will take it personally. At that very moment, she will have very bad emotions towards you. The key is calibration... When you think is the good moment, you switch that negative emotion into positive emotion by saying something nice or whatever, telling her that you're just teasing her and that she looks cute when she start getting all mad. This concept is not easy to use but once you get good at it, you will see incredible results and you will be glad you took the time to practice it.


5) Routines:

Routines.... Routines.... Routines....


Pfft.... Routines... I feel the need to talk about routines.

I personally think that routines are BAD for your game. Fuck them, just be yourself. Routines may be good for you in the short term if you have nothing to talk about, but it will only make you a social robot and you will soon forget your true self. I don't recommend anyone to work or try to memorize routines... Exept, maybe... One.

The cube.

This routine... Is incredible. This is the only routine I ever used and it's been working like a charm every single time I used it. You guys should google it and read about it because it is so amazing! However, the cube is probably not the best routine to do in a club since it can actually put the girl in a very delicate state. I once tried the cube routine on a girl (That later became my girlfriend) and it got so deep that she said we could take about it another time, "not in this place, it's not the right place to talk about that". Not using routines brings us to the next concept, conversational skills.

) Conversational skills: Let me explain myself, why would you need any routine if you could just be yourself and having absolutely no problem talking to any girls? Conversational skill is something you develop with practice. Staying home and talking to your mom won't help... You've got to get used to talking with strangers. For a brief moment, stop trying to be the best pick up artist and just try to be a social man. Good thing about developing conversational skills is that you do not absolutely need to practice it on top models, which you may find intimidating. You could just go outside for a walk and talk to strangers! Old, kids, man, female, hot girls, ugly ones, it doesn't matter! In fact, if you can easily hold a 30 minutes conversation with an old person, you will have no problem talking to any girl your age for hours (Since you normally have less in common with someone of another generation). The point here is to practice yourself finding good conversation subject that both you and the other person will enjoy. Girls LOVES to talk, they will talk to you for what seems eternal if you find the right subject, something that she is passionate about.


Well, well, well... Looks like we're done with the basics. Like I said earlier, these are what I think are the basic concept of seduction that everybody should work on. That being said, if you feel the need to learn more about other concepts like peacocking and others, you are free to do it but I don't consider them that important for anyone who just wants to hit on girls with some good results in the night scenes.

Now, let's get down to business... What you have all been waiting for.... My dancefloor and club game method! Hooray!

But before we start, I would like to tell you guys that there a hundreds of different methods out there, and guess what? They probably all work! This is just my very own method that I developed from my past experience. For instance, I know that
"skills360" is also a really good dancefloor and club pick up artist and he have a method that is very different than mine. Unlike his "No talk allowed method", I am often talking, even on the dancefloor (Of course, small talk since it's so loud).



Approaching

This is a no brainer: Approaching is the most important part about night game. It is so easy but so hard to master... Why is it so important? Think about it this way: Air is so important for anyone in this planet but we always forget about it! We don't even know we're constantly breathing since it is so essential. Approaching is kind of like air for us... Without air, there is no "us". Without approaching, there is no "pick up". Of course, you'll get occasional hook ups when a drunk girl think you're cute and whatever, but you will never develop any true pick up skills.

How do you develop good approaching skills? You approach. It's as easy as it sound... But no so easy to do, heh?

I, myself, had a severe case of AA. There's only one way to overcome AA and it's to fight it. Personally, I got fed up of not being able to approach a girl so I decided to overcome it. For two straight night, I ONLY approached. I would approach, and even if they wouldn't reject me, I would eject only to approach another set. Within those two nights, I had approached over 90 sets and I never had AA ever again.

Tips for beginners: What you say when you approach is very unimportant. It is how you say it that counts. There are hundreds of way to approach every set you will encounter. But I'm not blind or stupid... I know that many guys who will read this have so many questions about approaching and they probably won't be doing this "hardcore approaching session" anytime soon. But what if....
There was an easier way to practice your approaching skills? Wouldn't it be great!

Then, let me ask you a question: Why are you so scared of approaching?
- Most guys will say that they doesn't want to be rejected. Hell, I know that rejection is harsh. But the more you get rejected, the less you care. Hell, I don't even remember if I got rejected last Friday since I didn't give a damn!

That being said, I think that for those new guys out there, it would be easier to start with a stupid opener! Now let me explain myself: If you would come up to a girl and say: "Hey, I'm MrMatt and I thought you're cute so I had to come say hi" and you get rejected. This will be harsh for your ego... Why? Because you were in a vulnerable position and she denied YOU. She denied your person... But if you approach her with something so stupid that you know you will get rejected, she is not rejecting YOU, she is rejecting you're FUCKING STUPID opener and if she don't reject you, Hell! Just stay in the set and do your best to game her! This is a great way to start approaching without taking rejections personally.

These days, I don't have to open that much (For the simple fact that I get opened before by girls who already saw me somewhere or whatever) but there are so many opener for any dancefloor or club situations! If you're at the bar waiting for the bartender and there's a cute girl standing next to you, why don't you just say: "Hey, how are you"... Or whatever the hell you want!

If you're on the dancefloor and you see a cute girl dancing, try to get eye contact, smile and just go introduce yourself. Never, ever, in the history of everdom, grab a girl from being and start grinding on her. Jeezus! Sometimes, you will encounter girls who will want to dance with you so they will just dance in front of you and close the distance. Unless you have awful talking skills, don't just start dancing with her. Personally, when it happens, I just stop dancing, look at her friend with a "wtf" face. She will eventually turn around and wonder what is happening, then I say something among these lines "Wow, calm down there... I'm not that kind of guy, you know. You have to at least introduce yourself if you want to dance with me"... There you go, you opened her...

Okay, I could literally talk about approaching for days, so just ask me if you have any questions about this section and I will be glad to answer!



Mid-Game

Congratulations, you successfully entered the set. Now it's time to seduce your target! First of all, you must know that night game in general is incredibly faster than day game. While it may take hours of seduction before you kiss a girl during the day, it may only take 5 to 10 minutes during the night (Everything happens so fast).

At the bar, outside or anywhere else exept for the dancefloor: You introduced yourself, now since I developed my dancefloor game alot more, my goal is usually to bring the girl on the dancefloor with me. If you bring a girl on the dancefloor, chances are the she will not deny you if you try to dance with her so you can just take her hand, spin her and start dancing with her. So basically, your goal here is to: Introduce yourself, some small talk, maybe a compliment (Not on her looks, it can be about her dress or personality but NOT on her physical appearance! Ex: If she says something nice, you could go with: Awwww Your so cute!....) and to bring her on the dancefloor.

On the dancefloor: Now that you approached the girl, you need to do your next move quick or she will just pretend your not interested. Luckily, what you go to do is simple. You've got to make her dance with you and there a so many different things you can say to achieve it! Here's some example: "Hey, you're a pretty good dancer, but I'm not sure if your that good of a dancer with a partner (Give her your hand, spin and start dancing)", or a plain simple "Hey, come dance with me" (Give her your hand, spin and start dancing" and much more! Since I took dancing lesson, I usually just tell the girl I took social dancing lesson, I show her a bit of social dancing and I can usually see that she is shocked, and having so much fun... and only than I will switch into the usually grinding. Once you are grinding on the girl... Timing gets really important. If you grind with the girl for too long, she will get bored and leave... If you grind on her for not long enough before you try anything else, she will get scared and leave... But usually, I grind with her for maybe 2 or 3 songs... Ocasionally, I will tease her with some comment (for example: Oh, you're not that bad of a dancer, finally... with a big smile)... After 2-3 songs, I will try to grab her hand, lift them, spin her and dance face to face.

At that point, if your in that situation, the girl is probably willing to kiss you (Of course, there are some exeption... Girls with boyfriend who thinks dancing is allright but not kissing, etc.) I usually dance with her face to face for about 1 or 2 song before I try to kiss her.



The first kiss

The first kiss... Awwww... The most important kiss you will ever have with this girl. I see lots of guys who are having trouble with the first kiss. There are so many information about k-close on this forum so if you don't think that I am specific enough, just go check some other thread on k-closing.

In my opinion, the "best" (Best, as in most romantic, that girl will crave for) are the non-verbal ones. I usually k-close a girl non-verbally by putting my head on hers while I am dancing on her face to face. This will increase the sexual tension and you will have a feeling of being more intimate with the girl. At that moment, you can just close your eyes and "feel" the girl you are dancing with. If her head is down and you do not have acces to her mouth, she's not ready so you just have to wait a bit. You could probably tease her and then close the distance back (Example of teasing at that point: Awww, your so cute, you look so shy). If her head is up and you have access to her mouth, simply kiss her. The first kiss should never be really long, maybe 5-10 sec. Then just look at her and smile.

I do understand that some guys here are not ready or do not have the confidence to go for a kiss without saying anything and I respect that. There are so many lines you can say for k-close. Just look at MM and his "Do you want to kiss me" line. At one point, I was just fooling around with a girl, testing out some kind of "romeo" gaming so I just went on my knee in the middle of the dancefloor, took her hand, kissed it, and she basically jumped on me. Imagination... Don't be afraid to test out new stuff! As long as you try something, you're learning... And therefore becomming a better pick up artist.



Closing

Closing... Depending on your logistics and the girl itself, it may or may not be a one night stand. If you have the logistics on your side, just go for it. Tell the girl to come home with you.

Worst case scenario---> She says no.

In that case, take her number and leave.

If the girl is definetaly up for it but you do not have the logistics on your side, you could always tell her to come with you in your car to have an "intimate moment" or ask her if she has he own place.

Worst case scenario----> She says no.

In that case, take her number and leave.

If you don't have the logistics on your side and the girl is not up for it yet, take the number and leave.

Day 2

Day two... I won't elabore much on it since I feel like this thread is already too long. But basically, texting game is a really important aspect of night game if you want to get day 2 with any girls. She meets guys at clubs every time she goes there, so you must be different from these guys! Like I keep telling the guy I am currently coaching, texting is also a skill you shall develop with practice and for that reason, I tell him to text girls he previously number closed even though he don't want to meet them again.

For more information on texting, I recommend "Texting game by Vin Dircalo".


Books/e-books I recommend

Sex God by Daniel Rose

Texting game by Vin Dicarlo (Forgot the exact title)

Escalation ladder by Vin Dicarlo

60 years of challenge




Statistics



20% of guys fuck 80% of girls. Be those 20% guys.



Quotes



Nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent- Elizabeth Roosevelt

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take- Wayne Gretzki

Practice does not make perfect, perfect practice does make perfect- Alexander Ovechkin




Game on, guys

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Dear Optimist, Pessimist & Realist,

Just to let you know that while you guys were arguing about the glass of water...... I drank it!

Sincerely, the Opportunist

Once again, I apologize for my previous post being a bit long and for any of the spelling mistakes I may have made.

That being said, if any of you have some questions or would like any clarifications on anything, just ask and I will be more than happy to answer you.

Like I said previously, this is only a method that I developped from my personal experience, this is one method.... And there is hundreds! So I totally respect the fact that some of you may not agree with everything that I said. However, I would still like to hear your HONEST opinion about it.

One last thing... I took the time to write a detailed post about my experiences with Night game to help others and I think this is the reason this forum exist! So I would appreciate if you guys comment on this thread to keep it alive. I am fed up of good posts being forgotten and pathetic guys (Not to name anyone) with insecurities and bullshit excuses (Obviously not ready to learn) getting all the attention.

This forum is about helping others.

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Dear Optimist, Pessimist & Realist,

Just to let you know that while you guys were arguing about the glass of water...... I drank it!

Sincerely, the Opportunist

dJ Z is right i stop reading after the cube, actually good stuff there...the method was describe at the end..

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Really? we're gonna be that particular on the definiton of "method?"

Matt, it's good stuff. It's basic, but it's good, and too many guys come in here spouting their "methods" that overcomplicate things or repackage basic ideas with different names and claim it to be their own work. You described how basic concepts help you in a particular environment, and I think this could help guys out.

That being said, definitely coulda been made shorter. The items you put under "the basics" could mostly have just been briefly included in the core section that follows. Only your points on looks and lifestyle didn't really fit into opening, midgame, first kiss, close.

you are right, i stop reading after the cube, lol, but the method is ok...

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I do wanna comment again on one point, and I'm so glad you brought it up, Matt. GRINDING IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE SUBSTITUTE FOR A HANDSHAKE. haha, one of my old buddies from college would wander up to girls from behind and just start basically humping them, then wonder why the hell they walked away. I'll give you this much, though, if she doesn't immediately leave she's probably in need of the cock.

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These hos ain't loyal

Hey! mr. matt i apologize for my original post, actually i know from the pics posted in the chat, and your stories that your system is working very well for you... Cool too see a post on club game... i am a club game junkie, i do disagree with a lot of your method, specially the talking part,the cube etc... but if it works for you, great, i will contribute with some of the mistakes that i have seen guys make at the club every freaking weekend that i go out:




Mistakes guys make at the club:

1.- Hanging out with too many guys.- I recommend you hang out with a maximum of one other guy. It is better to be alone as women will be less intimidated and may even approach you (This happens to me all the time). If you are going to the club with a group of guy friends make sure that everyone meets at the club in separate cars. The reason you should do this is when you hook up with an hb and your wing or friends don’t they will pressure you to leave early or take them back killing the chances of taking your target home. Make sure that if you do hang out with a guy or group of guys that have no game or do not project higher value, in some instances they may simultaneously lower your own value in the eyes of your target and her friends, guilt by association. Moreover, when there are too many guys it creeps women out, it looks like a pack of ravenous wolves trying to pray on a rabbit. Generally, I prefer to game alone but sometimes I have a wingman that I meet at the club. However, if he is having an off night, or his value is being lowered by too many mistakes, I will move off and game alone.

2.- Parking.- A problem I frequently notice men make is standing stationary in the middle of the dance floor looking for targets. Doing this is creepy and lowers your value. You need to either park outside of the dance floor or you need to be moving through the club. I usually go to a corner or a spot outside of the dance floor and dance, then when they play a good song or I see a girl I like I approach her immediately.

3.- Looking at a girl multiple times: When you make eye contact with a girl, do not break eye contact, just go up to her and say: “How you are going to look at me like that and not say anything, come on lets dance” or better yet do not break eye contact at all and go up to her and dance. Do not stay where you are and stare at her multiple times, that is creepy and/or shows lack of confidence, try to use the 3 second rule,
THREE-SECOND RULE—noun: a guideline stating that a woman should be approached within three seconds of first seeing her. It is intended to prevent the man from thinking about the approach too much and getting nervous, as well as to keep him from creeping the woman out by staring at her for too long. Origin: Mystery.
4.- Grabbing or touching when opening: When you INITIALLY approach the girl do not grab her hand or touch her, the only exception to this rule is when they play Latin music, or Latin beats for example Shakira, Ricky Martin, Pit Bull, or Regeton. After you are in the set and pass the social hook point, you should escalate incrementally a little at a time.
5.-Chasing: Do not chase women around. When you are dancing with a girl and she walks away, just act neutral and keep dancing or open another girl or set. Frequently, women will try to shit test you by dancing with another guy; let her do it and do not chase after her: you are the prize. Regardless of how tempted you are to chase after her resist it! Remember: to get a girl you must be willing to lose a girl. As I said women have done this to me ALL THE TIME, and they end up coming back.
6.- Buying girl drinks and flowers: Do not buy girls drinks or flowers. If you have already made out with her and she is into you, then you may decide to go this route. Personally, I would advise against buying drinks or flowers as it establishes her as the prize and not you. If you have made out with her and she is into you, make sure that you buying her a drink is not one of her shit tests. If all three of these things check out and you still have your heart set on buying her a drink, knock yourself out. Never buy her flowers under any circumstances, make your own napkin flowers (I will link some tutorials on how to do this later in the book). Buying drinks too early in the interaction is sending the message I am not good enough for this girl and let me buy you a drink so you can keep hanging out with me both of which come across as too accommodating and needy and will nearly always kill any attraction for you she may be feeling. If a girl asks you to buy her a drink, tell her ”Of course. Do you have 10 dollars?” Most girls do not ask guys to buy a drink especially if they know the guy has game. Usually if a girl is hinting me after we made out that she wants to get a drink what I do is say “Go ahead. I will be right here since some times is a hint that she wants the interaction to be over or she wants to be isolated. If she goes to the bar and she wants me, or gives me indications that she wants me to join her, I go with her but I stay 5 steps back; I will behave as if I have no idea what is going on. I do not look at her, but instead give her my back and keep dancing till she has gotten and pay for the drink at that point she usually comes back to me.

7.- Failure to pick up on hints: Sometimes the girl will move away, stop dancing when you approach, or her friend will Hug her dancing(rescue mechanism). Additionally, her body language may indicate that she/her group of friends want to be left alone. This is normal. No matter how good you get you cannot win them all. The problem that I see is guys staying there like idiots, or who do not get the hints. What is even worse is following them around after they’ve moved on to dance in a different area. If you are with your wing and the girls reject you, by Hug dancing the girl, you can do the same shit with your wing while giving them the back: not only will the girls be embarrassed; it is kind of funny.
8.- Being too aggressive or not being aggressive: You need a balance of push pull. Turn her on, but also pull back a bit, then go back to turning her on then pull back. But do not make the mistake of being all over her to a point that she feels violated. Watch my dancing videos. I will demonstrate the correct way to do this while dancing. Your goal, when dancing, is to escalate as much as possible and to make out with the girl while at the same time seeing to it that the hb is having a really good time.
9.- Failure to engage the group: If she is with a group of men and women, you have to engage the whole group. I do this by dancing with everybody including the guys (no gay shit, but I will grab a hand and jump in back and forth in hip hop/reggae or like friendly bumping with hard core hip hop and hard rock for example, not amoging) or encouraging everybody to dance and high fiving.
10.-Approaching difficult sets: If you see that the girls are overly into themselves or are in their own world rejecting people left and right it is best to avoid. If they are in a committed relationship, or you saw the group and they were into another guy(s), who just went to the bar and is coming back, approach other sets that are not as complicated. With that being said, approach everybody I am just saying that in the choice of difficult sets vs. easy sets, I recommend going with the easier set first.
11. - Fighting- I am a martial artist and speaking from experience, there will be incidents where guys will try to fight you. Girls can be equally crazy wanting to fight because you bumped into each other, or you are trying to dance with their girlfriend. Regardless, do not fight under any circumstances! Not only will it lower your value, you will be banned from the club, the bouncers will beat the crap out of you, then you will get arrested, and pay a bail bond of $5000.00 on top of spending a night in jail. Just ignore them and leave.

12.- Leaning in: No matter how loud the music in the club is, do not lean in to talk to a woman. Your back should be straight as a wall. You must avoid leaning in even if the music is loud. This includes lowering your head. Your head and back should always stay straight when talking. If she wants to talk, cup her ear (so it is not so loud that you two are screaming, and talk), but try not to talk, if you do, remember to avoid leaning in.

13. – Approaching from behind: I do not recommend approaching a woman with her back turned to you, because this is what every other loser does. There is nothing original or unique about this approach. Additionally, she has to turn around to see who is dancing with her, and if you get rejected it will look really bad and lower your value to other potential targets/groups. The exception to the rule is when she has anticipated that you are coming behind her after giving you IOIs. The most common three IOIs she will give are 1) looking at you while fixing her hair 2) proximity to where you are, or 3) bumping you on purpose or subtly. The second exception is booty music with a younger crowd. Remember, in this one your targets age comes into play.
14. - Bumping the girl, or dancing back (her booty) to back (your booty): Shows lack of confidence and again what every other loser does, it may work and some puas do it, but in my style of club game I do not recommend it cause it shows that you are not confident, man enough to come up to them from the front. The exception to the rule is when she has given you IOIs, but again this is not my style.
15. - Asking the girl to dance: Do not ask girls if they want to dance. If they tell you they no do not want to dance do not beg. Worst still is after she has said no, asking her friends to dance. What do you think they are going to say?
16.- Having too much high energy or too low energy: Your energy level has to be slightly higher than the set you are opening, too much high energy and the set will think you are a loony. Low energy you will lose you the set because you are a buzz kill.

17. - Being a Dancing Monkey: I see excellent dancers in Clubs, who can hold the attention of the whole club but do not get any girls. Alternately, if they are with girls, those women will only be their friends. These guys never or hardly ever hook up. Do not be a dancing monkey. From time to time, I will go into the middle of the dance circle or dance flashy to call attention to myself from nearby hot women. Doing this is a DHV. However, I never do this for more than a minute or two. Then I run my regular club game.


18.- Getting too drunk: I do not recommend drinking, if you do drink, drink only enough to loosen up. Heavy or even moderate drinking will fuck up your game, get you into fights, and get you in trouble. Drinking in bars or clubs is also expensive.
19. - Long term memory: You have to be like an NFL quarterback after throwing an interception. Take Brett Favre for example, he is a great quarterback, and when he throws an interception he doesn’t stand around all day and obsess about the negative memory of temporary failure. He moves forward, as should you. You need a short term memory, if you get rejected, or things do not go your way, you need to forget about it IMMEDIATELY, and move on. But you need to go return to a confidence, fun, cool state. Do not over-analyze: what did I do wrong? Why she ditch me? Maybe I am ugly. This includes all that negative shit we put in our heads. You need a strong inner game. Believe it or not the best guru for inner game in my opinion is a Pastor by the name of Joel Osteen. I recommend getting his books, and watching his television shows.
20.- Lack of Calibration: CALIBRATE—verb: to read the verbal and nonverbal responses of a person or group and accurately deduce what they are thinking or feeling at that moment. Origin: Richard Bandler and John Grinder. Let me illustrate with a couple of examples: One time I met a girl that had not gone out to a club in more than 15 years because she was married, and just got out of the relationship. She was struggling financially due to the bad economy, was into me and wanted to take me home. We were having a good time, till she asked me to buy her a drink, I went into pua mode and I said: Do you know who I am? I do not buy girls drinks, they buy me drinks. Then I told her “Go back to your friends, I have to go.” In this example, all I showed he is that I was a jerk off and a cheapskate. When I called her three days later, I got no response, and I guarantee you that night she wanted a SNL.
Another example is this one from the pua forum from a member name phagan:
"A case in point from tonight - a 3 set. HB7s. I start dancing with one of the chicks, getting closer, closer... making out. Great. We dance for maybe 3-4 minutes, making out a few more times, I make sure to always be the one who breaks it off. She puts her hand under my shirt, she looks at me all seductive... it's on. Then she takes a step back and tells me "dance!", looking at the floor in front of me as if giving me instructions to "dance for her"... so I come closer to her and say "I don't take orders from anyone" and back off a little, still inside her air space, smiling, not angry or anything... just being my cool self, the same self she was making out with 20 seconds earlier. "

According to PUA rules/textbook, what he did was to follow his teachings. But as you can tell there is lack of calibration, all he had to do was to dance with the girl seductively, he blew up his chances.

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Any tips for guys who are shit at dancing.

Its very hard to hold anyones attention.

Any tips on dress sence.

This is good simple shit. Took my guys to a venue with loud music.

I'm pretty new to this Club Game thing. I am a Day Gamer.

Please give advice on nonverbal in a loud environment. Can u guys actually hold a conversation in a loud venue without shouting.

How the f do females communicate in a loud venue, I do not understand.

Please give advice as though it was to a Club Game novice.

It may help as to know what u guys did first when u were club game newbies.

The approach part is understood, keep doing it until u r good at it.

Is it possible to be even average in this without dancing.

Dancing advice is good, so I can pass this on to the guys who dance.

I get the impression the girls are just there to show off and not talk to anyone. I am sure I am not wright in this.

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Skills, Jackal - If you wish to post your game and rules, please make your own topic instead of hijacking others.

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Matt, I'll read it when I have the time!

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By mr. matt

"One last thing... I took the time to write a detailed post about my experiences with Night game to help others and I think this is the reason this forum exist! So I would appreciate if you guys comment on this thread to keep it alive. I am fed up of good posts being forgotten and pathetic guys (Not to name anyone) with insecurities and bullshit excuses (Obviously not ready to learn) getting all the attention.

This forum is about helping others."



@ Lyrical: why don't you read the forum rules and the post before coming out of retirement, thank you!

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Skills,

If you wish to make a remark on my actions as a moderator then please do so by sending me a private message or reporting me to the moderators.

Since I do know the rules, I still live by them and act by them. It doesn't mean that if I'm retired that I still can't make remarks.

Regarding the fact that you teach me howto to my job in here, I'm not really fond of that.

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a lot of peole like to play the game ´´who got it bigger????´´

Lyrical,

if you wish to make a remark on my actions as a member then please do so by sending me a private message or reporting me to the moderators.

since i do know the rules, i still live by them and act by them. it doesn't mean that if i am a member that i still can't make remarks.

Regarding the fact that you teach me how to post in a forum, i am not really fond of that...

Skills!


P.S. by mr. matt

"One last thing... I took the time to write a detailed post about my experiences with Night game to help others and I think this is the reason this forum exist! So I would appreciate if you guys comment on this thread to keep it alive. I am fed up of good posts being forgotten and pathetic guys (Not to name anyone) with insecurities and bullshit excuses (Obviously not ready to learn) getting all the attention.

This forum is about helping others."


By lyrical:

"Matt, I'll read it when I have the time!

≠ LD"

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@DJ_Z, thanks for the feedback man, really appreciated! And Yeah, I see too many guys thinking they can just approach any girl by starting to grind on them!

@Skills360, this is a thread with basic for beginners and I still think it was too long. I don't think you learned anything from it since it's so basic and you've been doing this for some time but I'm pretty sure it will help out some people! That being said, thank you for your input with mistakes guys often make! It worth reading and I think it's 100% true (Maybe except for the dancing monkey, being an amazing dancer can be a plus but not if you're doing it all night long. I will sometime start dancing real hard just to tease a girl as if we were doing a dance face off, but afterwards I switch to normal dancing and flirt with the girl).

@LD, First of all, I can't wait to hear what you think of it since you are a dancefloor specialist! You helped me so much with club game and everything you'll say will be noted.

That being said, I don't know if it's against the rules but I am totally fine with others putting there thought on dancefloor/club game! Like I said, I didn't write this to show other members how I, MrMatt, seduce girl in a given place. I wrote this so it could help others, especially new guys with what seems for too many people a "scary place, full of judgement". There's absolutely no way that I think I can help members of this forum better than any other person who've been experiencing club game as well.

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Skill where can I see some of your videos or you mentioned a book. I am very curious to see your game so I can learn for myself.

Matt I think your post is really good for beginners at night game just to know basics. I will try the romeo tonight with someone, sounds like it could be fun (maybe I will throw in a napkin rose) and ask her to do something or get me something as a joke

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