i have been seeing a couple of people still thinking masturbation will improve your game, so i thought i would post this.

ok, everyone stop, right now. (especially if you are masturbating, lol.)

I posted a topic on masturbation up a while ago, back when i was still an AFC, and like many of you AFC's i just thought, "well they said it works in 'there's something about mary,' so it must be right..."

WRONG

first off it's just a movie, so it's already a bit fictionalized.

does masturbation relax you? yes, but does it improve your game? NO!!!

there have been several studies that show people who masturbate often are more likely to be depressed as long as it continues.
and does a chick like some deppresed guy? NO.

so you might be thinking, "ya LuckyMan might have heard it in a study, but that doesn't affect me or mean it's real."
WRONG AGAIN

after seeing this study i thought, well maybe i would do a little experiment.

so what i did is i went to school one day, where i masturbated the night before. and what i found is
1. I was more tired
2. I didn't pay attention as much
3. When i talked to girls, i started to get AFC.

this is probally because i just thought, well if i mess up right here, i can just go home and masturbate, and my women problem is solved.

i did this a couple of days and got the same results.

now, when i didn't masturbate i discovered a couple of things.
1. I was getting work done, and i was wide awake throughout the whole day.
2. throughout the whole day people were laughing at all my jokes. and i was the center of attention.
3. I was pretty much a PIMP with women.

i now had that sexual drive i so desperately needed the days before this.


I understand that the AFC move is to just go and choke the chicken, and i understand most of you defending masturbation are still learning how to be a PUA.

however, get some self control, don't masturbate, and get women.

if you don't trust me, just try the experiment out your self. and you might learn something new.

am i saying you should never masturbate? NO!!!

just use it sparingly (once a week) and on saturday nights where you have nothing to do.

that's just my 2 cents.

I've found it depends on the guy. It effects each guy differently. Probably depending on the guy's sex drive, I figure.

For some guys, it takes off the edge, for other guys it messes them up.

hahahah, no offence man. But that is garbage. Ofc if you've read that lack of masturbation sharpens your focus, your focus will be sharpened. The only way to test this is to have the same person live the same day through and go into the exact same situations. There are so many factors, if it wasnt enough alone that you had already convinced yourself that you would be sharpened I would go through and pick out more faulty variables. This thread is rubbish.

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What a title!

Really? I disagree with most of your article, but this really sticks out. Who the hell sits home on Saturday nights and spanks their monkey? NOT ME!

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basically what that means is do you have anything to do on sunday? most of the time no. but you should do it a day where the next day you have nothing to. see the connection now?

you guys can be entitled to your own opinions, but don't you agree it's an AFC mentality to think, "well, i should masturbate in case later tonight i don't get any girls.

it's a fact that it's more unhealthy then it is healthy, so i don't think you are arguing that fact.

as L.A. Tripp said, maybe it could take off the edge, i'll take his word for it. but still, a man should not be dependent on masturbation to take the edge off, just keep that sexual drive.

and Mr. Fahrenheit, you can say all you want. but just test out this experimentation. when i tested this out, i didn't read anything on the lack of focus, just on being depressed in the long term. so don't think that i was just 'swaying' with the article.

Yes, this I definitely agree with. If that's what a guy is thinking, he should at LEAST wait until the night is over because he really needs the sexual edge to push him to overcome AA.

See, my point is that all guys have a different sexual drive. Sure, most guys THINK about sex all the time, but thinking about sex, and the sex drive is not really the same thing.

Some guys have a sex drive that they are ok with sex once a week. Or even once a month. It just doesn't bother them. Other guys have a HIGH sex drive. They need it everyday. Even a few times a day. So, that's why I say it depends on the guy. If you don't have a high sex drive, you NEED that edge to push you to get out of your comfort zone. If you do have a high sex drive, you may need to just take the edge off, so you can focus more on your game.

Does that make more sense LuckyMan?

yes it does L.A. Tripp. thank you for clarifying.

Let me just tell you this:

Back in the day when I used to play competitive sports, I was ALWAYS sharper, faster, stronger, more aggressive, and more motivated when I abstained from any type of sexual activity. There's a reason most boxers or martial artists abstain for at least a week before a fight.

I do believe this translates into the Venusian arts as well. However, if you are a very successful PUA already, it's a moot point. But if you are just beginning to open sets, or if you have anxiety, abstaining for a few days will help your game.

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There are many physiological benifits to masturbation, such as reducing stress, releasing endorphines that make you happier (although this can turn out to be a short term thing that leaves you feeling less happy later due to lack of endorphines), helps sort out emotional issues and many other things. There are also negative side effects though, such as reduced energy from releasing it, not being as horny, so not being as focused on how well you sarge, not thinking as clearly as if you don't do it for a couple days.

No body looks at the negative side effects of not masturbating though. You start to think about nothing but sex after a while (especially if you are already mostly thinking about PUA, it's a very short jump), you get stressed, you practically have ADHD you have so much energy if you're not getting laid.

The key is in moderation and knowing when you don't want to do it. Personally I find it drains my energy if I do it before sarging, as well as making me not try as hard, so I don't do it before going out. If you're gonna have a hard day of work the next day that requires a lot of energy it might be best to abstain, but if it doesn't require a lot of energy, but will be stressfull, then it might help.

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I find that I get to ansy if I don't masturbate. I've cut it down to once a week from multiple times a week and find it works for me.

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