Yep, and this is precisely what is wrong with most people.

Only in recent history has mankind lived in such a crowded world, where we are constantly bumping into people we don't want to bump into. Many people just withdraw entirely or let their fear of others determine their behavior.

I'm with Zip on this one, although I understand your point saq and it's a good one.

If one wants to remain in their social straight jacket, then they have to expect to miss social opportunities. I say as long as you're not breaking any laws, or common sense rules of good taste, most people I run into are open to pushing the limits of social rules that don't really seem to make much sense at all in reality.

Besides, this is so funny, I just have to play it again..

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=28eDelSTVWU[/youtube]

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Starbuck and Zip:

By no means was I suggesting NOT to open somebody on an elevator, I'm merely pointing out the logistics as to why it could be a bad setting. I agree with both of you about breaking the social norms or experimenting with it. I'm 100% all for change if it's positive! So I'm technically with Zip on this one too..lol Just pointing out fun facts and the possible outcomes.


ps. that video was hilarious

What about good old Evelator pitches? I know I'm not the only sales person here!

In sales your supposed to have a rapid-fire 20-30 second delivery memorized and in your back pocket... your elevator pitch. I would say it could be usefull for a PUA... if you can rapid fire through A1 and A2 with an elevator pitch... then your set up to move/bounce anyway (leaving the elevator).

Dear Zip,

What are some of the most playful ways men have initiated kino with you within the first 10 minutes of meeting you? Please give examples, and thanks.

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Zip:

Is there anything a guy could do within the first 3 minutes that would keep you from kissing him?

Is there anything that a guy could do within the first 20 minutes that would immediately and irrevocably turn you off from ever going into his bedroom?

If you give a guy your phone number, what would keep you FROM answering his call?

Is there a limit to the height or weight of a guy that would cause you to never go beyond the LJBF zone with him?

If a guy literally gropes you within 5 minutes of meeting him, would you slap him, tell him off, or just walk away?

If a guy calls you out on something that you really did, how would you respond to him?

As I think of more relevant questions, I'll post them.

Oh yeah, how can we get more AFC's to post in this thread? lol.

Hey Zip, you want to give us some cologne suggestions? Some of your favorites, perhaps. As well as how much one should put on for the best effect. And in what locations.

And one more thing..

Why is a wedding ring on a man sometimes referred to as a 'p...y magnet'?

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Nice Starbuck, thanks for throwing that in there.

A particular incident immediately comes into my head. I was at a really crowded bar, and this guy was "pushed" into me. He was charming. My guard came down, so I didn't metaphorically punch him in the face. He started to get to know my friends, and it was so crowded we couldn't open up the circle to let him in. He was tall and I'm about 5'4...he said, "I have a solution" and stood behind me with his hands around my upper arms, talking to everyone in the group with his head above mine. When he talked to me, he leaned to the side and talked into my ear. It was unusual, and comfortable because he was so confident and in control of his frame. Totally non-skeevy.

Another example, a guy came up, laughing from his group of friends, and said "Hey, can I borrow your hand for a second. I just found out something" Of course I said hell no, and he said, "come on, you don't look like one of those wimpy girls." Now, I had to give my hand. He took my hand, palm up, and rested it in the palm of his. He took his other hand, and firmly pressed down on the inside of my wrist. Because of the way the tendons are connected (or something,) my fingers curled up involuntarily. We were all so amazed, he did it for the next three minutes. As a reward, I got a hand massage and a martini.

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There are a million things a guy can do within the first three minutes that would keep me from kissing him. There are only a handful of "right" things a can can do to get to kiss me.

If you have chapped lips upon introduction, and I will be looking, I will never kiss you because the mental image will skeeve me out. This is a personal pet peeve. Also, if you steal a kiss from me too early (the kiss on the cheek fake-out, etc.) I will punish you for a while, purely out of principle.


Hypothetically... embarrass himself socially to the point of no return, initiate kino too early, proclaim how horny he is, grab my ass, say he likes cats more than dogs, etc.


Calling too soon (get a life.)

I'm notorious for not answering the phone after I've given out my number. If I feel like I made an accident by giving the number out, or I regret my faulty judgement in giving my card to that hot bartender...I will not answer. Maybe this is because I'm never itching to get in relationships, who knows. Even if I've given someone my number, they have to have made an extraordinary impression for me to answer a call.


I've been a total superficial bitch in the past, but that's because I could. I'd like to say I'm more mature now, and I'd never say never. I've dated a guy who was larger because his personality was amazing. No regrets. However, I don't think I could date a guy who is shorter than me. I already have an authority complex, and it would just be too easy for me to run all over him.
I will verbally abuse him until he cries. This happens, more frequently than I would like. Actually, I really enjoy doing this. They deserve it for being tactless.
My pride is important to me, but if the guy did it in the right way, I don't think I'd be defensive. I'd concur and we'd share a laugh about how stupid I was about something. Then, I'd immediately get him back

GOOD QUESTIONS! really got me thinking.
I'll put a shameless promotional banner on my signature. We'll put a supermodel on it, some beer, and it shall say "porn thread." AFC's will come running.

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Growing up with dogs only, and now having only a cat and being relatively pleased by its independence, I resent this remark.

Another plus, cats don't bark and they love eating mice (whole I might add) and chasing bunnies (I have 20 of them in my yard every night). They also bury their own shyt, unlike dogs.

That being said, I have a sign at the end of my driveway on my gate. It says "Beware of dog"... Who do you think it refers too?

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No hidden meaning behind this question im just curious, what's the most meaningful compliment you've ever gotten in your life?

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Creed is the cologne used by British royals for centuries. If a man is wearing it, I can hone in on it from a year away. It's expensive for a reason...because it's intoxicating and not overpowering. It accents rather than covers.

I'm also a fan of just using old spice. It makes men smell like clean men. I like clean men.

Guys. If you are tall and meeting a woman like me for the first time, I'm not going to be making out with you, and will probably not have reason to get all up in your face. Yes, a dab on the neck is nice, but I may miss it. Solution? Put just a bit on the insides of your elbows and on the insides of your wrist. Not a lot. While you're holding my hand, fixing my hair, telling some outlandish story with gestures...I'll be subconsciously tying that great smell to you. Smell is connected to memory. I may even answer the phone when you call in three-six days.

I'll get back to your p-magnet question after south park I honestly can't even come up with something clever to say about wedding rings at the moment. You boys have worn me out.

(I realize I totally just walked into that.)

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cute

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Hey this is fun.

A woman you can ask any question you want too, and she really tries to answer.

Zip you're almost as good as a wife.

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Tricky. I know it wasn't that I was beautiful or sexy or anything like that. One time, someone told me I was the most creative person they had ever met. That stuck with me for some reason.

Oh, and an ex of mine once said "Thank god you don't have one, but if you did, your d**k would be 13 inches long." That's a favorite that totally creeps me out.

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