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A person's character is visible through their behavior, speech, and sometimes appearance. After seeing Gunwitch for who he truly is there is no doubt in my mind he is not qualified to be a leader in any form. Morally or on a purely pragmatic PUA level.

A man like that can not pickup a quality women. The type of women that is beautiful on both a physical and emotional level. The only type of women that would be with him are equally vile. He can get a quality women if he completely and utterly deceives her. People in general and women especially have a sixth sense when it comes to lies. It would be difficult and rare to completely fool a women so his success must be rare, non existent, or he is an excellent liar. I'm not interested in sluts or deception so his method is worthless to me

Gold diggers, sluts, and overall bad women, are after a man's money or just want an attractive man. He can't offer either. I doubt he has any game at all, the only sex he gets is from hookers and if he is REALLY lucky a girl at a club that is alone completely wasted, who no other men are competing for and everyone stands by as he takes advantage of her.

This scum bag is a leader giving relationship advice! There is no one checking if the "leaders" are qualified to give advice or if they are people who have the integrity to lead an organization.

It is because a guy that has no honor or game became a respected pua guru I doubt the integrity and morality of other pua leaders. It is very possible that many other gurus are just as twisted, have no game, and are just con men.
I agree Cogito
im pretty sure he does lonewolf day game but i may be wrong. You cant say because he did something bad means his method is wrong; if michael jackson molested kids (not that he did), does it make his music bad?

Its horrible what he did but Little panda is trying to say (i think) is that just because he did a single act of violence does not mean; the community is bad, his method is bad, he is a bad person, she didnt attack him or it was self defense.

although the last few things are unlikely, has anybody even heard any more news other than he was arrested on suspicion of murder, no ones even heard an account of what happened that night, to my knowledge.

Ive never tried his method fully or enough to get results but its also based on science unlike others and ive heard good results. Also yes 'quality' girls do go after pretty bad guys.

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molesting kids and making music are completely unrelated things. Some one can molest a child and make good music.

Shooting a twenty year old girl in the head and picking up beautiful women are different. I doubt a man that would shoot a girl in the head is much of a ladies man. Even though his actions are enough I'm not judging based on that alone. The video of him shows a really man in a really negative state physically and mentally. The video of Gunwitch shows a loser. And shooing a girl in the head definetly makes you a bad person

Quality girls like bad, dangerous guys in the sense of James Bond, Colin Farell, Michael Corleone and Fifty Cent. Not in the sense of a forty something year old alcoholic that is balding, beer belly, has a nasty goatee, and an obsession with guns and witches. Mind you he is a leader in the community! That speaks volumes on the people who practice his game and philosophy.

Take an unbiased look at gunwitch his life style appearence, personality. and behavior. That is not some one you should take dating advice from. Even if his method does get you sex his philosophy is a part of his game and it will rub off on you. He is not someone that should be followed


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molesting kids and making music are completely unrelated things. Some one can molest a child and make good music.

Shooting a twenty year old girl in the head and picking up beautiful women are different. I doubt a man that would shoot a girl in the head is much of a ladies man. Even though his actions are enough I'm not judging based on that alone. The video of him shows a really man in a really negative state physically and mentally. The video of Gunwitch shows a loser. And shooing a girl in the head definetly makes you a bad person

Quality girls like bad, dangerous guys in the sense of James Bond, Colin Farell, Michael Corleone and Fifty Cent. Not in the sense of a forty something year old alcoholic that is balding, beer belly, has a nasty goatee, and an obsession with guns and witches. Mind you he is a leader in the community! That speaks volumes on the people who practice his game and philosophy.

Take an unbiased look at gunwitch his life style appearence, personality. and behavior. That is not some one you should take dating advice from. Even if his method does get you sex his philosophy is a part of his game and it will rub off on you. He is not someone that should be followed
actors and characters arent good examples brah.

some would say being a forty something, balding, beer belly with a bad goatee guy who can get laid, would mean hes got good game and therefore people would be more likely to accept his advice as his looks definitely dont help him.

Anyway he wrote his material ages ago, the stuff ive read anyway.

It is my God given conviction that getting into sexual state and building rapport with a girl, will not make me shoot her in the face. ever. You would be crazier than him, if you thought that.

have you read his material? its about a 15minute read the GWM1 and its free.

If you havent, youd see why his actions dont mean much for his method.

fyi, james bond killed plenty of women and beat them, Michael Corleone shot people and was pretty brutal to his wife, bordering abuse and fifty cent was a cack dealer who used to beat the shit out of people for money and use guns to rob places hahaha you used bad examples but i got what you meant.

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A person's character is visible through their behavior, speech, and sometimes appearance. After seeing Gunwitch for who he truly is there is no doubt in my mind he is not qualified to be a leader in any form. Morally or on a purely pragmatic PUA level.

A man like that can not pickup a quality women. The type of women that is beautiful on both a physical and emotional level. The only type of women that would be with him are equally vile. He can get a quality women if he completely and utterly deceives her. People in general and women especially have a sixth sense when it comes to lies. It would be difficult and rare to completely fool a women so his success must be rare, non existent, or he is an excellent liar. I'm not interested in sluts or deception so his method is worthless to me

Gold diggers, sluts, and overall bad women, are after a man's money or just want an attractive man. He can't offer either. I doubt he has any game at all, the only sex he gets is from hookers and if he is REALLY lucky a girl at a club that is alone completely wasted, who no other men are competing for and everyone stands by as he takes advantage of her.

This scum bag is a leader giving relationship advice! There is no one checking if the "leaders" are qualified to give advice or if they are people who have the integrity to lead an organization.

It is because a guy that has no honor or game became a respected pua guru I doubt the integrity and morality of other pua leaders. It is very possible that many other gurus are just as twisted, have no game, and are just con men.
I agree Cogito
Point taken. I completely misunderstood what you were trying to say earlier and I completely agree with you on this point.

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molesting kids and making music are completely unrelated things. Some one can molest a child and make good music.

Shooting a twenty year old girl in the head and picking up beautiful women are different. I doubt a man that would shoot a girl in the head is much of a ladies man. Even though his actions are enough I'm not judging based on that alone. The video of him shows a really man in a really negative state physically and mentally. The video of Gunwitch shows a loser. And shooing a girl in the head definetly makes you a bad person

Quality girls like bad, dangerous guys in the sense of James Bond, Colin Farell, Michael Corleone and Fifty Cent. Not in the sense of a forty something year old alcoholic that is balding, beer belly, has a nasty goatee, and an obsession with guns and witches. Mind you he is a leader in the community! That speaks volumes on the people who practice his game and philosophy.

Take an unbiased look at gunwitch his life style appearence, personality. and behavior. That is not some one you should take dating advice from. Even if his method does get you sex his philosophy is a part of his game and it will rub off on you. He is not someone that should be followed

Question: Gunwitch is a bad man and could in no way be succesful becuase he shot someone in the face.

How many times to James Bond beat people up and/or kill them?

How many people has 50 cent probably killed during his time as a crack dealer?
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In all seriousness it's quite funny to laugh at some of these posts and watch the "Bad boy" parade come to terms with the knowledge that "Bad and dangerous guys" do bad and dangerous stuff outside of just sit in a bar with a "bad boy" scowl on their face.

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Gunwitch as a person created a great theory and principle which has worked again and again, still to this day there are people like myself who believe he should be one of the first things you read to learn game.

To defend Gunwithch as a PUA, you'd be incredibly suprised what some historical "Casanovas" have been like, drunkards, liars, charlatons and some just down right evil and cruel.

It's understandable to want to reject Gunwitch for what he has done and with that everything associated with him, but please, lets act like grown ups. Let's seperate this mans individual action from his works.
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Hobbit seems to have something.

Many gurus come from un-happy backgrounds and have been quite un-settled individuals. Furthermore we have a generation of students who seem to think that these people are qualified on matters of self help and personnal development.

A leading figure in the community just shot some girl in the face! And you want to take a self improvement course from that community? Are you insane?

It's unbelievable that people in this thread are going "Man this is why we need inner game"

Who do you think you're getting this "inner game" from, if not another semi-sane manic-deppressive?

Stick to keeping PU focused on PU. Becuase as far as self improvement goes, you're going to have to learn to be your own saviour.


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I don't think this will impact the "community" at all. There have been numerous scandals in the NBA, NFL, etc... and people still enjoy watching and playing basketball and football.

Perhaps it's my canadian upbringing that makes me think that way, but some countries need to have some gun control implemented and fast. It's near impossible to get a hand gun in Canada. When violent arguments breaks out we see fist fights. It's a lot harder to kill someone with your fist then with with a gun.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people (NRA slogan). Yeah, well the gun helps a whole lot don't you think?

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Whether or not the shooting impacts the community isn't imporant.

What is important is...
...does it directly affect YOU?

Gunwitch is a psycho bastard. He's going away for a long time. Good riddance.
End of story.


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hard to believe... but i agree with rune ^


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LOL at all the people who think this will effect the community. News flash, no one outside of the community even cares about the community. :P

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LOL at all the people who think this will effect the community. News flash, no one outside of the community even cares about the community. :P
The people in the community can still affect the community, but you're absolutely right about people who aren't in it don't care.


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