ok so I got a # of this girl
and called her and she asked me to come to a party
I couldn't go so I called her the next day with no response
weeks later I ran into her and had really awkward small talk
I thought i was fucked until she facebooked me and said "txt me sometime"
I waited and finally had a good story to tell her and we facebooked it a bit

HB: when are you gonna come hang out with us?

ME: depends on my schedule
and who is us?

HB: me and the girl who is practically attatched to my hip, We have lots of fun... you know you want in on it lol

ME:can never have too much fun
ah! I just remembered there is gonna be a party tonight

says she can't go

so a day or so later I ask "when are we gonna have that 'lots of fun'?"
bad move I know
and no response
ok so she showed up at my room, (she has a class with my roomate) really caught me off guard and we had more boring talk bcuz my roommate was there and i asked if she was around during break and her reply was "no" so there goes that... I can't really do much with this one for a while(i guess) but I think she IOI'd by asking about what sports teams i liked and commenting on my shirt but maybe not
I really think she felt either akward or bored bcuz she kinda lay there in my beanbag
i don't know maybe she was comfortable or bored

freeze this one until next semester I guess


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this is exactly why i need to work on my game
any female advice
I really just talked bout school and my roomates and that was it
but I really wanted to real her in i just dodnt know how

Hey Zip,

How you doing hun? There was a recent thread that was about how to totally thrill a girl in bed which actually made me ask you these questions . Im going to be taking a girl to a hotel and I wanted a bit of advice.

Well heres the gameplan. Were going to go skating first to city hall. Then were going for dinner (a romantic italian place). Then we agreed on spending the night at the hotel. I was thinking of getting a really nice modern romantic hotel, I have a few questions =):

1) I've already established that I'm going to get the room candlelit for an extra $50 I really think that will up the romance. And I was also thinking of getting rosepedals on the bed . Do you suggest music if so what type? What else can I do to enhance the mood?

2) Is there anything in perticular I can do that will thrill her in bed like make her never forget the night? What are somethings that make you go crazy in bed?

3) Any other tips or things you want to suggest?

Thanks zip I always appreciate ur advice

Right now, you're playing on her terms. She's the one accepting or inviting. Now, she's giving you IOI's and coming over to talk, but you are the one in charge of taking it as far away from "small talk" as possible. It sounds like she's sorta interested but testing you. So far, you've failed because you're not breaking her routine.

I'd wait a bit and start over. She's falling on this other girl as a crutch and as an excuse that she's not asking to hang out with you... both of them are interested in "hanging" with you. Don't put up with that anymore.

I'm going to consult some girls I know that pull this exact same crap. I'll be back with you shortly.

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Bonjour Darling,

Since you're so nice to ask, I'm great. I'm quitting my day job tomorrow, and I'm dancing around about it.

You're probably referring to Meth's post. I saw that earlier today, and I've been mulling it over all day. Lots of things to think about.

1.) Okay, this sounds like a lot of planning. TRICKY. Must be a very special lady, at least, I hope she is. Just make sure she doesn't get too used to this type of stuff, or she will start taking advantage of it. Now that I threw a caution sticker on this, here we go.

If you're doing all the rosebud, candlelight stuff... make sure you are not at all awkward when y'all walk in. As soon as you enter, let her take it in for like one second, but then establish that it's your party. She's being allowed to visit your frame for the night. Otherwise, it will get hokey. If you believe it, she'll believe it. This will "enhance the mood" by twofold.

As far as music, damn. Check out that thread about sex music. I'm going to give you the worst advice ever and tell you to put on Jock Jams. You might want to go with something chill and "indie" in order to pull the "trite" out of the air. Not that what you are planning is trite or corny, but if you have candles and rose petals PLUS Marvin Gaye... she might throw up on your shoes.

2.) Tricky question and a good question. With women, it's mental. PM me about this because I don't want to get all pornographic on my thread. Or, read any articles/interviews with Hypnotica you can find.

3.) I can't think of any other advice or words of wisdom other than make sure you control that room. It's such a generalized girl fantasy, that you have to own that reality or risk consequences. You could make it an experience never to forget, or you could make it a bad stereotype.

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Jock Jams . . . hehe . . . gee, I wonder why you suggested that . . .

I would appreciate that very much
I'm def. being tested
my roommate said "someone here wants to see you" and it was her so...who the hell knows
I'm just very sad the semester is over she will be "back home" for a month
otherwise I'd try and pass her damn tests


thank you for the female perspective
how easy it is to forget that we are always being tested

I keep hearing about some zip person and was sent here.. lets test you out and see if you're as good as people say, or if it's just because there's a pinch of estrogen here in this bowl of sausage stew called the forum. Also, I’m using you as the example but answer for both you and for what women in general would do if it’s different.

If you don't feel like answering a question then the more power to you

1. Today's society is all about having to go out to date on a first date because of the dangers on going over to a guy's house or him coming over to yours instead... What are your opinions on going out vs actually making a good dinner from scratch at his/your place and having fun doing it.. not to mention it can get messy

2. I'm always a C&F kinda guy.. so in terms of basic opening the two I generally open with are "hey stranger" or "hi, I'm Bob".. because it's pretty entertaining for the responses.. and girls generally then try to tell me that it's not, which i may add is plenty entertaining. if a guy came and opened you in either of those ways what would be going through your mind and how would you respond?

3. If you meet a guy that’s extremely interesting but isn’t exactly showing interest in you when he should be. Do you give up, or do you try to gain his attention and make him interested in you?

4. What the hell is up with you women wording things so horribly.. it almost always starts with “We need to talk,” “I have something important to tell you,” “I have important news,” and even once “I’m pregnant!” and then a five minute pause before saying “oh yeah, it’s not yours”.. if you can answer this I’d be amazed.. other than general stupidity.

5. If a guy came up to you in a bar, club, mall, coffee shop, etc… and said “you like the fun type, want to go make some other girls jealous of you?” what would you think and would you go do it.. especially because most girls love to do that shit

6. I met a girl who’s pretty much the female version of me and we both really can’t find any of each other’s buttons to push without getting extremely personal. The mind games are quite vicious and generally always end up in a stale mate. Do you think there’s away to take her by storm?

7. Do you lie to guys about how many people you’ve slept with. And if so, do you always say less, or sometimes more, or instead, just what you think the guy wants to hear and will believe?

8. When flirting with guys and vice versa, at what point in the conversation do you decide that “if this guy plays his cards right he’s getting lucky tonight?”

9. Which do you think is sexier, a nice guy, an asshole, or a nice guy with all the positive qualities that you find attractive in an asshole. In addition, do you prefer a guy who’s self-confident, has a huge ego, or has so much confidence it approaches way too cocky without crossing the line. Explain the reasoning behind your answers

10. What do you think of games like the cube, strawberry fields, etc.. other than their original purpose being for child psychology.. also games like 5 lies and the yes game? In addition, what would you think if a guy came up to you, opened you, and bet you a few rounds of drinks that he could tell you what sports you play by your body, what your heritage was by your looks, and where you were from by your accent? Would you take the bet and what would the effect be if he pulled it off? Also what would be going through your mind that a guy thought he was that good despite you probably never hearing it before.. This one I’m wondering because it’s something I’m quite good at and generally makes people here in quite impressed.

11. What would you say the five biggest turn-ons about a guy are other than looks, clothing style, sense of humor (unless it’s a specific type), and social status/proof, trophies etc?

12. What happens if a guy can not only play the game right but can beat you in both a battle of wits and mind games?

13. Lastly for the baker’s dozen, you say you’re a professional wingwoman; are you self employed, what exactly do you do and what duties does your job entail? I’ve read about this stuff but I’ve never cared much for wings except the occasional pivot I go out with. This who aspect of a professional wingwoman is a tiny bit intriguing especially since it seems that every time you go out you have another date.

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OOOH, now this I like. Give me a few hours because I'm telling my boss to suck it, and I'll get down and dirty with these great questions.

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Obviously the more complex person is sexier. Rather than "nice" let's say a "good guy with all the positive qualities that you find attractive in an asshole."

I like self-confidence, a touch of cocky, and a touch of self-deprecating humor. I like variety and depth. Otherwise, my personality is too overbearing, and I will steamroll you like a squirrel on a highway.

I'll get to the rest tomorrow. My sleeping pill is kicking in now, and I'm starting to feel like Anna Nicole Smith.

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just make sure you don't wake up like her... and by that i mean make sure you wake up

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Dear Zip,

It is morning and I'm not feeling sexy. She felt the same way I guess, rushing off to work an hour ago. The mood just isn't there, and I'm not lighting candles because they burn my retinas. Also, I have this strange craving for chicken parmesan. I'm firing my butler and hiring a cook.

1) How do I make morning sex work?

2) What do girls REALLY think when I get aroused during kino?

3) Will the "Hello, my name is ___" opener ever recover as a viable option?

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Even though I know the games, if the guy is entertaining enough... I'll play along. Hell, it's refreshing. It breaks the monotony. I'll bet a few rounds, but I'll probably outsmart him every once-in-a-while for kicks. Yes, it's fun, but it's not all about what you say. It's about the non-verbal.

Now, if a guy comes up to me and starts going through the cube, but there's something that screams AFC about him... I'll probably turn it around on him so he leaves me alone. Like I said...it's about the non-verbal.

I don't understand this question: "Also what would be going through your mind that a guy thought he was that good despite you probably never hearing it before.." Would you mind wording it in a different way or clarifying so I can answer?
body-language, frame control, a mix of confidence and self deprecating humor, control, and balls (metaphorical, gentlemen.)
Depends on how smug he is while doing it. If he's an ass about it, I'll get angry and plot sweet sweet revenge. If he's fun, it poses a challenge to me that I find sexy. But I'm a hard game to beat
I am self-employed. I tried looking at a certain agency (you all can probably guess which one, but I can't say,) and the pay wasn't high enough for my taste. I get work by word of mouth and referrals. I usually meet the guy at a public location, get a good grip on him (memorize background information, learn his flaws, learn his exceptional qualities, generally get a good feel for the guy,) explain the game plan, and move to the "field." He points out who he wants to talk to, I open the set, I signal him in...bla bla bla. I also offer image consultation and personal coaching sessions outside of the field.

It's fun, I'm good at it, and I learn new things about human nature every time I go out. It's great because I get to analyze people for a profession, and I enjoy doing that anyway. It's also great fodder for my writing, which is another professional interest of mine.

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1. Okay, morning sex is sometimes hard to get women on board with. However, this is how I was converted into a believer of the dawn delights.

As you're kinda in that semi-waking stage, initiate some light contact...you can always blame it on still being asleep...but some light fluffy touches should slowly build. She'll either respond or not. If she responds, gradually increase it. She should respond to the increasing intensity with a reciprocal increasing intensity. Then, when there is no denying that both of you are awake... initiate morning sex.

Some girls will get to this point and get all self-conscious about being imperfect in daylight. Morning light is not pretty. As long as you take charge, convince her you don't care (non-verbally,) she'll fucking let go and there you are.

2. Depends. If I'm not at a certain point of attraction... your boner freaks me out. If I'm turned on too, it's awesome. I get butterflies in my stomach like an 8 year old on a ferris wheel.

3. No.

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to rephrase the question from earlier...

while games like cube and what not are entertaining to you and to which you will play along with... I have a different game I play to impress women after opening. I bet them a few rounds of drinks and bet i can guess what sports they play (just by looking at their body) and what nationality (or mix) that they are, and where they're from if they have an accent all without making a mistake or making very few for that matter.. but they can guess mine first.. it makes it a challenge for them and i'm generally right on too.

How much would you be impressed if i guy could tell you this. and to rephrase the question would you think it odd, cocky and arrogant, or intrigued if a guy said this to you?

as for you being a hard game to beat.. i've only met one that could beat me.. i wish you luck on that one m'lady


also, as for being steamrolled by a squirrel on a highway.. i swear it was the other way around.. this following commercial is proof
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2Z2_kKAe9y0

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